Why do you think people called him Rearenders?
millertime31
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that guy who said Hellas ST unit isnīt set up well was funny.
Seriously, who doesnīt hate Miller Miller? we need a nerf badly
Seriously, who doesnīt hate Miller Miller? we need a nerf badly
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I dont hate miller miller. I think he is a stand up dot.... well his kind of a lie flat and slide around dot, actually.
Originally posted by millertime31
that guy who said Hellas ST unit isnīt set up well was funny.
Seriously, who doesnīt hate Miller Miller? we need a nerf badly
Sometimes our Offense hates Miller Miller when we play guts tbh
that guy who said Hellas ST unit isnīt set up well was funny.
Seriously, who doesnīt hate Miller Miller? we need a nerf badly
Sometimes our Offense hates Miller Miller when we play guts tbh
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We had the same issue so we put our Punter in as backup PR since he never gets to punt anyways.
xeef
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Originally posted by kswass
We had the same issue so we put our Punter in as backup PR since he never gets to punt anyways.
This is why im a hoplite, and not a member of a to remain unamed world leauge team stumble used to be on. That owner does everything perfect. except this.
why screw over the kick returner? cause hes not a REAL member of the team? balance it maybe, not bench him in his 2 times a year to shine.
"the offense didnt get full XP, they had to settle for ALMOST full XP".... KRs never get full xp except in blowouts.
kswass, your returner cant say so, or he will be a bad teammate, but this really pisses off guys who build for those stats. I hear it alot, ive heard it from the guy who took my guys place on that team. Its not a happy thing to do to your returner.
We had the same issue so we put our Punter in as backup PR since he never gets to punt anyways.
This is why im a hoplite, and not a member of a to remain unamed world leauge team stumble used to be on. That owner does everything perfect. except this.
why screw over the kick returner? cause hes not a REAL member of the team? balance it maybe, not bench him in his 2 times a year to shine.
"the offense didnt get full XP, they had to settle for ALMOST full XP".... KRs never get full xp except in blowouts.
kswass, your returner cant say so, or he will be a bad teammate, but this really pisses off guys who build for those stats. I hear it alot, ive heard it from the guy who took my guys place on that team. Its not a happy thing to do to your returner.
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 15:15:39
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 14:19:01
dwebb12
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Originally posted by xeef
This is why im a hoplite, and not a member of a to remain unamed world leauge team stumble used to be on. That owner does everything perfect. except this.
why screw over the kick returner? cause hes not a REAL member of the team? balance it maybe, not bench him in his 2 times a year to shine.
"the offense didnt get full XP, they had to settle for ALMOST full XP".... KRs never get full xp except in blowouts.
kswass, your returner cant say so, or he will be a bad teammate, but this really pisses off guys who build for those stats. I hear it alot, ive heard it from the guy who took my guys place on that team. Its not a happy thing to do to your returner.
Well I think Kswass was refering to games vs cpu/gutted or completely outmatched teams. On the Wrath we don't have selfish players, not saying that you are. Miller Miller is great at PR/KR btw. It's about the team, and yeah 1000 yard 10+ TD games against a cpu/gutted or outmatched team may make you feel good about yourself, but we'd rather have 1 guy get close to max xp and still have great numbers and TD's against these teams and the rest get max xp. It's a team concept not a me concept. Our KR/PR (Speed2Burn Jones) is a great guy/dot player and our special teams are awesome which is why he's already had 7 TD's this pre-season against some good competition. We learned our lesson last season when every time he would touch the ball against these teams he would score and the O never saw the field.
This is why im a hoplite, and not a member of a to remain unamed world leauge team stumble used to be on. That owner does everything perfect. except this.
why screw over the kick returner? cause hes not a REAL member of the team? balance it maybe, not bench him in his 2 times a year to shine.
"the offense didnt get full XP, they had to settle for ALMOST full XP".... KRs never get full xp except in blowouts.
kswass, your returner cant say so, or he will be a bad teammate, but this really pisses off guys who build for those stats. I hear it alot, ive heard it from the guy who took my guys place on that team. Its not a happy thing to do to your returner.
Well I think Kswass was refering to games vs cpu/gutted or completely outmatched teams. On the Wrath we don't have selfish players, not saying that you are. Miller Miller is great at PR/KR btw. It's about the team, and yeah 1000 yard 10+ TD games against a cpu/gutted or outmatched team may make you feel good about yourself, but we'd rather have 1 guy get close to max xp and still have great numbers and TD's against these teams and the rest get max xp. It's a team concept not a me concept. Our KR/PR (Speed2Burn Jones) is a great guy/dot player and our special teams are awesome which is why he's already had 7 TD's this pre-season against some good competition. We learned our lesson last season when every time he would touch the ball against these teams he would score and the O never saw the field.
Edited by dwebb12 on Aug 15, 2009 18:08:43
Edited by dwebb12 on Aug 15, 2009 17:53:18
xeef
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This is my point EXACTLY, you dont have selfish players, but thats not the point. if you DIDNT have selfish players, you wouldnt hang your returner out to dry with nothing.
And you never know whos upset until they leave. not saying he is, but they cant say anything if they are.
you totally missed my point. the returners NEVER get max XP. at this level max XP is not that much different from almost max XP, its not about the max XP, its about everyone wanting THEIR guy to get stats in the gut job, which isnt bad, but lets call a spade a spade, and not say a KR is selfish for not wanting to only touch it 7 times (or zero) when he could finally get 40.
we are probably talking about 2 differnt situations here.
And you never know whos upset until they leave. not saying he is, but they cant say anything if they are.
you totally missed my point. the returners NEVER get max XP. at this level max XP is not that much different from almost max XP, its not about the max XP, its about everyone wanting THEIR guy to get stats in the gut job, which isnt bad, but lets call a spade a spade, and not say a KR is selfish for not wanting to only touch it 7 times (or zero) when he could finally get 40.
we are probably talking about 2 differnt situations here.
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 18:11:39
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 18:10:55
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 18:09:51
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 18:08:48
Edited by xeef on Aug 15, 2009 18:08:35
xeef
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This is an ongoing conversation amongst my returner kabal buddies, thats all im saying.
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I understand what your saying. Though when you make a pure KR/PR you do so with the understanding of what your role is going to be. Kswass has made plenty of his guys pure special teamers so that our return man can put up big numbers season round and not just in these blowout games to try to put up gaudy numbers and have his ego stroked.
Also I wouldn't say that we hang our returner out to dry with nothing I mean we let him have his days in the spotlight. Check special teams mvp last season.
Also I wouldn't say that we hang our returner out to dry with nothing I mean we let him have his days in the spotlight. Check special teams mvp last season.
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I mean I know what your saying we all like to see our guys put up great numbers thats why we play the game and troll forums for ways to make our players better. I just think that it's better to have 1 guy who is happy with his role on the team get close to max xp and the rest on the team get max xp. It's not like the QB, RB's and WR's don't like to put up big numbers in these games also. KR/PR's aren't the only ones. This way everyone wins.
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