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Ilok
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Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson
so str. is key ?


i have a lvl 47 QB with
105 throwing
73 vison
65 str. so it should be higher or should vison be higher ?


there is no key, but Qb is one of the one positions you can just boost a couple attributes extremely high and expect good results.

Throwing should be around 100 with TS around 10 and atleast 1 piece of pass quality AEQ, that is a given. If you are suffering from a lot of PDs because of ball hawk, boost strength. If you have problem with leads and reads, boost vision. Confidence seems to be a quick fix bandaid when you are stuck on a bad team, which my QB has been on plenty yet still performs well. Also Kenshinzen is absolutely right, high bullet will lead to a whole lot of PDs and interceptions when you start facing corners worth a damn.

The key is, in my experience is if you are planning on throwing down the field, you need bullet type zip on the ball to get around ball hawk, yet higher trajectory than bullet offers so that you throw over the defender and not through the defender. Strength is the key there, but that doesn't mean you can sacrifice vision to boost strength. I've tried that route and it doesn't work either. I'm thinking a friendly medium is the best route to go, that's why I'm trying the 100/80/80 approach.

Best advice I can give you, don't listen to all the assholes on here dealing out advice when their QB puts up shitty numbers in close games. Look for advice from people who consistently puts up decent numbers, not outrageous numbers, in most of their games. They usually have the better builds since they aren't on great teams. Jeff Garcia, although an asshole, knows his stuff, but he does suffer from being on one of the best teams in GLB so his build might not fit other teams.
Edited by Ilok on Aug 18, 2009 15:33:21
 
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Originally posted by Meteor53
gtfo bro
we had 3 receivers in that game running a 5 wr set
and playing a top team in the league

you don't need strength above 70 to be successful plenty of pro level qbs can tell you that


I see that you are the OC of that team and I watched the entire first half of your game and you ran a 5 wide set a totally of 2 times. Please try another excuse, like I was out leveled or my team was out leveled. Remember my qb is 56 and on the lowest average leveled team in my conference playing in a PL.

How bout you stop giving bad advice and excuses and listen to someone who might actually help you.
 
Matt Cline #8
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Originally posted by Ilok
there is no key, but Qb is one of the one positions you can just boost a couple attributes extremely high and expect good results.

Throwing should be around 100 with TS around 10 and atleast 1 piece of pass quality AEQ, that is a given. If you are suffering from a lot of PDs because of ball hawk, boost strength. If you have problem with leads and reads, boost vision. Confidence seems to be a quick fix bandaid when you are stuck on a bad team, which my QB has been on plenty yet still performs well. Also Kenshinzen is absolutely right, high bullet will lead to a whole lot of PDs and interceptions when you start facing corners worth a damn.

The key is, in my experience is if you are planning on throwing down the field, you need bullet type zip on the ball to get around ball hawk, yet higher trajectory than bullet offers so that you throw over the defender and not through the defender. Strength is the key there, but that doesn't mean you can sacrifice vision to boost strength. I've tried that route and it doesn't work either. I'm thinking a friendly medium is the best route to go, that's why I'm trying the 100/80/80 approach.

Best advice I can give you, don't listen to all the assholes on here dealing out advice when their QB puts up shitty numbers in close games. Look for advice from people who consistently puts up decent numbers, not outrageous numbers, in most of their games. They usually have the better builds since they aren't on great teams. Jeff Garcia, although an asshole, knows his stuff, but he does suffer from being on one of the best teams in GLB so his build might not fit other teams.


yeah thanks

and like 110 throwing would be a waste right ?
cause i mean when i upgrade my EQ ill put it all into throwing or should i switch up and put it in vison ?
 
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i would switch it up. I'm guessing you got pretty high tight spiral and if you don't have a pass quality AEQ get it. With those two there isn't really any need for throwing to be over 100 and you'll get much better use with points in either vision or strength.
 
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What's a good Stamina for my QB to have to only have one QB on my roster? (sorry to change the subject. you guys just know your QB's ha
 
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Originally posted by Jolee_Bindo
What's a good Stamina for my QB to have to only have one QB on my roster? (sorry to change the subject. you guys just know your QB's ha


40 or 50

40 to do less good 50 to do better
 
Matt Cline #8
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Originally posted by Jolee_Bindo
What's a good Stamina for my QB to have to only have one QB on my roster? (sorry to change the subject. you guys just know your QB's ha


depends if your working a 1 QB system or 2 QB system

if a 2qb ... then like 30s

but if you want one QB to do it all 40 +
 
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Originally posted by Jolee_Bindo
What's a good Stamina for my QB to have to only have one QB on my roster? (sorry to change the subject. you guys just know your QB's ha


depends on the level. Lower levels can get away with lower stam for what ever reason. If you're level 45+, I wouldn't have a 1 QB system unless the qb has at least 48 stam and 60 confidence. Don't forget that 2 qb system also halves the moral drains, so if you are flying solo at Qb you'll need higher confidence.
Edited by Ilok on Aug 20, 2009 17:20:03
 
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Originally posted by matt cline the next chad johnson
Originally posted by Jolee_Bindo

What's a good Stamina for my QB to have to only have one QB on my roster? (sorry to change the subject. you guys just know your QB's ha


depends if your working a 1 QB system or 2 QB system

if a 2qb ... then like 30s

but if you want one QB to do it all 40 +


Nice reading ability.
 
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I have Throwing 100 Strength 64 and Vision 67.
Trying to get the lattter two both up to 80, not sure where to go from there though, Confidence is 55r.

I'm not in an uber league mind, so my QB does fair well and gets 110,20+ QB rating on the reg for a season.
I've been throwing an Interception in every scrimmage game though, getting a bit worrying, specially with this new QB deal to Morale etc as other teams in this league have some really good defence, and our O line, isnt the worst but not the best ever.
Edited by KONTRABAND on Oct 12, 2009 11:34:36
 
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confidence ftw
 
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100 throwing/80 strg/80 Vision/ 70 conf.
Spend the flex and get it there. That's my 2 cents.
 
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mine is 100 throwing 95 vision 75 strength. I still struggle in AAA a little but my teams have always been a bit poor. 45% bonus to pass quality too!
 
dhalme
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Is there a chart of diminishing returns somewhere on throwing? From what I have read over 106 is a waste. Why is that?
 
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I am shooting for 100 throw 90 vision 80 str and 70 con not quite sure if I will hit it but will be happy if i get pretty close .

FWIW For the sta question I have 41 on my qb ( plus 12 in field general) and hes in a 2 qb system and I looked at a few games and I never dipped below 89 on the energy level if that helps .
 
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