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Originally posted by Kcirdor
The amount of energy used being a complete player and still being able to do what he does proves more then you are admitting.


He hasn't done much as far as KR/PR goes this season, except for against teams with losing records.
 
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Enders avatar makes me want to visit titty bars in the greater cinncinatti area.
 
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After looking over Millers stats, I see about 5 legit returns (+-) 1 or 2 against legit teams. Looking at pee wee I see 3 for sure (+) 1 if we count the Tigers. I included Scrimmages. 95 percent of yalls scrimmages are against NOT legit teams. Yall have one team that is 10-0 but are 10 to 13 levels lower than Hella.

Peewee Played Both ends of Special teams and defense in all those games as well....

 
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PeeWee would like to remove himself from this pissing contest, and do whatever he can to help his team win.
 
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
After looking over Millers stats, I see about 5 legit returns (+-) 1 or 2 against legit teams. Looking at pee wee I see 3 for sure (+) 1 if we count the Tigers. I included Scrimmages. 95 percent of yalls scrimmages are against NOT legit teams. Yall have one team that is 10-0 but are 10 to 13 levels lower than Hella.

Peewee Played Both ends of Special teams and defense in all those games as well....



I only look at league games, not scrimmages. Since we are both playing the same teams that way.
 
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so that takes away a return vs Emanus for Peewee, *shrugs*
 
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
so that takes away a return vs Emanus for Peewee, *shrugs*


Hoplites don't play Emmaus, or I would count them too. Who is to say though, that Miller would or wouldn't do better against Emmaus?
 
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im only stating in your view peewee loses one of his returns. but if you really want to find out. Scrimmage them. I doubt they have time for a scrim though.
 
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I think he's just a really good "mentor".
 
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
im only stating in your view peewee loses one of his returns. but if you really want to find out. Scrimmage them. I doubt they have time for a scrim though.


He doesn't necessarily lose it in my view. Its just that, in my view, Miller has played against them, so who is to say that Miller wouldn't also get a TD? That's why I compared it to league games rather than scrimmages. Hellas and LRC play all the same teams except for one. So league games are the best way to compare the two imo.
 
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Originally posted by Enders
Originally posted by Kcirdor

so that takes away a return vs Emanus for Peewee, *shrugs*


Hoplites don't play Emmaus, or I would count them too. Who is to say though, that Miller would or wouldn't do better against Emmaus?


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So Marshall Wallace deserves some press.. You bitches!
 
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Miller Miller = Lemdog
 
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
Originally posted by Enders

Originally posted by Kcirdor


Peewee is better than Miller.


Do I really need to prove you wrong on that again? Peewee has only 1 TD against a good team, other than that all his TDs have been against teams who are struggling pretty bad this season. Miller Miller can do it against the good teams, and do it better than Peewee against the struggling teams.


yes, please prove me wrong. Be sure to incorparate complete stats like special teams tackles and defensive playing time that eats stamina.





I realized long ago that you cant be elite and still be a good corner. If youve built a guy thats good enough to play corner at this level, he has no BUSINESS returning kicks and vice versa. Saying doing 2 things moderately well is better than doing one great is silly. If you invest 60 into carrying, you cant be an elite corner, and if you dont, you cant be an elite returner.

Now the guy that started this thread, id LOVE to see him play against hellas. I think hed be a scrunchie on the floor after 3 returns. Extreme talent to be sure, but I think wed eat him alive.

I think its a TRAVESTY that they changed the game play as a result of this guy, if hes that good, he should be allowed to be the best.

^^ Edited as I realized peewees agent did not write this. **
Edited by xeef on Jul 13, 2009 20:22:26
Edited by xeef on Jul 13, 2009 20:22:01
Edited by xeef on Jul 13, 2009 20:21:23
 
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Originally posted by Kcirdor
im only stating in your view peewee loses one of his returns. but if you really want to find out. Scrimmage them. I doubt they have time for a scrim though.


This season

CB Miller Miller 3 92.5 30.8 0 5 154.5 30.9 1
Lafayette KR Yds Avg TD PR Yds Avg TD
CB PeeWee Herman 0 0 0 0 6 99 16.5 0

Last season

Lafayette KR Yds Avg TD PR Yds Avg TD
CB PeeWee Herman 3 76.5 25.5 0 2 14.5 7.3 0
Hellas KR Yds Avg TD PR Yds Avg TD
CB Miller Miller 3 82.5 27.5 0 3 127.5 42.5 1


Frankly, its not close.

To be fair, miller doesent have to return against the goonsquad. 1 TD. 1 TD allowed in what, 8 seasons now.
Edited by xeef on Jul 13, 2009 20:25:06
 
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