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jdpbernal
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Originally posted by Worker 3
-67 worked wondrously in my first game. but im with jdp. my guess is lack of vision and distance setting. not sure that its CD or FS though. im pretty sure UD is a big supporter of CD, so he probably has a decent amount in that. (unless this build doesnt have CD yet, in which case, thats probably the reason)

and for the record... i dont count a short reception of 5-7 yards as getting burned. thats allowing a completion. getting burned includes having the WR get way past you. if you are in tackling distance, thats not a burn. but yeah. my guess is vision. maybe even jumping.


I agree with you too there man.... Short receptions of 5-7 yards doesn't mean that your DB got burned.
You gave short yardage to stop/prevent that big long pass plays (that lowers your DB's morale). I'm kinda also agreeing on that Jumping thing.

By the way, I think you posted somewhere about that -67 stuff so I experimented on that -75 and it worked marvelously with my DB's.

Edited by jdpbernal on Jun 28, 2009 16:02:35
 
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I play -100 in a pretty competitive lower level league on my CB and it works like a charm. The guy I cover almost never gets thrown to and if he does I usually deflect.
 
jdpbernal
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
I play -100 in a pretty competitive lower level league on my CB and it works like a charm. The guy I cover almost never gets thrown to and if he does I usually deflect.


I think on lower levels -100 is good where you can match speed/agility. I have my lower CB's at -100 and they shutdown their man.

 
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
I play -100 in a pretty competitive lower level league on my CB and it works like a charm. The guy I cover almost never gets thrown to and if he does I usually deflect.


Lower leagues the builds arent as well rounded and likely SA's arent yet touched. I would suspect that his Reciever has good really good Agility and Good FS CD RR SA's. What happens is You line up and press a WR. He gets off the line and the CB would turn his hips to go down field(Dot). When the WR adjusts to the Ball your CB better have the Agility/jumping/vision to adjust. I would be interested what the slider was on before it was on -100. If the CB was say at -67 -75 it would allow for the CB to have more time to jump the route and be in position.

I think the more agility/CD/FS you have you can play closer and do well. On one of the teams that I am involved with there is a CB who never took speed/agility above 60 natural. he has 60 vision 60 jumping 60 catching and great SA's for his build. If his build was posted here it would be ripped to shreds. He however lines up way off the ball and gets a ton of PD's a good amount of Interceptions. Rarely does he get a ball caught on him. His lack of speed is rarely exploited many QB's dont always hit the WR in stride and he has time to catch up.

Anyhow I believe there is alot to be said about the sliders and there is not a universal slider option...It is varied by a players build/abilities.
 
Roger6363
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I also always wondered if High Strength and press coverage prevents clean releases I rarely see CB's with 50+ strength and running press coverage.
 
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Quick question only sort of related to this thread: just softcapped speed, should I take it to 60 or get agility to 48? right now at 17.99..
 
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Originally posted by josephblitz
Quick question only sort of related to this thread: just softcapped speed, should I take it to 60 or get agility to 48? right now at 17.99..


Take speed to 60 while intense training agility/vision.
 
Roger6363
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Originally posted by SunshineMan89
Originally posted by josephblitz

Quick question only sort of related to this thread: just softcapped speed, should I take it to 60 or get agility to 48? right now at 17.99..


Take speed to 60 while intense training agility/vision.


yes this......
 
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lol at UDs "squirm" reply
 
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Originally posted by mmuhr
lol at UDs "squirm" reply


Because it made no sense whatsoever?
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Still fishy. He got burned for a 1 yard touchdown where I know more speed would have helped, and the other was about a 5 yarder, again speed would have helped. All this after never giving up a touchdown all season, and probably only 2 his whole career. Small sample or not I think Speed is better still.


Your other three games this season were lopsided wins (two were total blowouts.)

Here's you giving one up in the pre-season though:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=660470&pbp_id=1510706


 
wormser1971
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Still fishy. He got burned for a 1 yard touchdown where I know more speed would have helped, and the other was about a 5 yarder, again speed would have helped. All this after never giving up a touchdown all season, and probably only 2 his whole career. Small sample or not I think Speed is better still.


Your other three games this season were lopsided wins (two were total blowouts.)

Here's you giving one up in the pre-season though:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=660470&pbp_id=1510706




That certainly was not a lack of speed
 
hee163
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I believe the UD's corners have plenty of vision/super vision but slightly below ideal agility and speed. I was on the same team as them in a zone heavy scheme and they were great, but struggled a bit in man coverage.

And maybe capped catching before jumping (though may be thinking of a different player)... lack of jumping would explain some of those plays.
Edited by hee163 on Jun 30, 2009 03:04:44
 
Underdawg08
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Originally posted by hee163
I believe the UD's corners have plenty of vision/super vision but slightly below ideal agility and speed. I was on the same team as them in a zone heavy scheme and they were great, but struggled a bit in man coverage.

And maybe capped catching before jumping (though may be thinking of a different player)... lack of jumping would explain some of those plays.


Slightly below ideal LOL they had more than yours. More everything than yours, oh except jumping.

I could see jumping being the reason for those.
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 30, 2009 06:34:55
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 30, 2009 06:34:33
Edited by UnderDogs on Jun 30, 2009 06:34:17
 
Darthmattino
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Still fishy. He got burned for a 1 yard touchdown where I know more speed would have helped, and the other was about a 5 yarder, again speed would have helped. All this after never giving up a touchdown all season, and probably only 2 his whole career. Small sample or not I think Speed is better still.


Your other three games this season were lopsided wins (two were total blowouts.)

Here's you giving one up in the pre-season though:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=660470&pbp_id=1510706




The WRs build was pretty much perfect though...>_>
 
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