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Chetro
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Originally posted by Nuge20
Originally posted by Kayoh

"Elusive" backs are not "Speed" backs. Elusive backs are actually a very rare commodity on GLB. Everybody has a speed back now a days. And that's exactly what you're describing here. A Speed back.

Elusive back would have Agility>Speed, plus the #1 SA would be Spin, followed by Juke, Head Fake, Quick Cut, Cover Up, and Stiff Arm last. You got the VAs down, though.


I have found that Agility>Speed does not work for me at least. I still have one HB with 71 speed and 103 agility, but he hasnt had a chance to be good yet (terrible team).


Interesting. Anyone have a HB with that large of a difference in favor of agility that's on a good team?

My HB has SLIGHTLY more agility than speed and it works, but I'm not sure I've ever really seen a back with WAY more agility.
 
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Originally posted by Nuge20
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001


Originally posted by blln4lyf



Nice, but Dooley doesn't have 70+ vision.






wat...I knowz this from teh thingy wit the screen shot from season 7 or 8


go ahead and post that screen shot
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Nuge20

Originally posted by Gart888


Originally posted by PsychoMan001



Originally posted by blln4lyf




Nice, but Dooley doesn't have 70+ vision.






wat...I knowz this from teh thingy wit the screen shot from season 7 or 8


go ahead and post that screen shot


photoshop ftw
 
whatje
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Originally posted by Kayoh
"Elusive" backs are not "Speed" backs. Elusive backs are actually a very rare commodity on GLB. Everybody has a speed back now a days. And that's exactly what you're describing here. A Speed back.

Elusive back would have Agility>Speed, plus the #1 SA would be Spin, followed by Juke, Head Fake, Quick Cut, Cover Up, and Stiff Arm last. You got the VAs down, though.


that doesn't even make sense. dancing around for no reason without the speed to turn it into anything isn't so much elusive as it is wasteful.
Edited by whatje on Jun 29, 2009 10:33:11
 
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Originally posted by whatje
Originally posted by Kayoh

"Elusive" backs are not "Speed" backs. Elusive backs are actually a very rare commodity on GLB. Everybody has a speed back now a days. And that's exactly what you're describing here. A Speed back.

Elusive back would have Agility>Speed, plus the #1 SA would be Spin, followed by Juke, Head Fake, Quick Cut, Cover Up, and Stiff Arm last. You got the VAs down, though.


that doesn't even make sense. dancing around for no reason without the speed to turn it into anything isn't so much elusive as it is wasteful.


Agree to Kayoh to some extent. IMO best elusives have more agility than what's generally suggested (like 20ish points lower than speed, 100/80).

Ex.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=107415
Having more agility doesn't = not having speed to turn it into anything.
 
whatje
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i understand what you're saying. most HBs w/ Agi > Speed aren't that good, though (i could see being near-even as pretty effective)

my main point is kayoh's distinction is completely arbitrary.
 
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i am working on a halfback where i want to get speed and agilitly to 80 natural, very close to there. i have been training strength and carrying and they are at about the first cap. i figure with my first set of equipment i will go heavy in agility. hoping to get over 100 points in the attribute. you wont be able to tell how it works till carrying is about 68 and the same with vision. i figure worst case scenario though is that the agility doesnt work that well and i can just switch equipment back to speed and go with the burner route
 
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Originally posted by Gart888
Originally posted by Nuge20

Originally posted by Gart888


Originally posted by PsychoMan001



Originally posted by blln4lyf




Nice, but Dooley doesn't have 70+ vision.






wat...I knowz this from teh thingy wit the screen shot from season 7 or 8


go ahead and post that screen shot


I dont have it...I saw it recently (and no not the serenity photoshop with blue zeros)
 
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I know he is lower lvl but I have one with 88 agility/46 speed. Once I get a littel more money I will have 91 agility. He is 5th in mvp race and has 151 ypg. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1341008
 
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Originally posted by Mad Dog23
I know he is lower lvl but I have one with 88 agility/46 speed. Once I get a littel more money I will have 91 agility. He is 5th in mvp race and has 151 ypg. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1341008


I didnt say they couldnt be successful but in general Speed backs do better than agility backs (those HBs who have fairly even speed and agility do quite well though IMO).
 
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Originally posted by Nuge20
Originally posted by Mad Dog23

I know he is lower lvl but I have one with 88 agility/46 speed. Once I get a littel more money I will have 91 agility. He is 5th in mvp race and has 151 ypg. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1341008


I didnt say they couldnt be successful but in general Speed backs do better than agility backs (those HBs who have fairly even speed and agility do quite well though IMO).


I'm not saying he is good. only an experinmental build. He has been effective. running on super elusive to 90.

 
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Originally posted by Nuge20
Originally posted by Gart888

Originally posted by Nuge20


Originally posted by Gart888



Originally posted by PsychoMan001




Originally posted by blln4lyf


Nice, but Dooley doesn't have 70+ vision.






wat...I knowz this from teh thingy wit the screen shot from season 7 or 8


go ahead and post that screen shot


I dont have it...I saw it recently (and no not the serenity photoshop with blue zeros)


http://i44.tinypic.com/deli55.png This one? No photoshop

60 SPs ago though

Edited by Mofo on Jun 29, 2009 21:11:35
 
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I'm not saying 110/70 agility/speed. I'm saying even something as simple as what elite pass rushing DTs do could be the trick. Put one piece of EQ in Speed, and since your an HB, keep your CEQ in Speed as well, but then use 3 pieces of Agility EQ. So if you have your 80/70 natural, Nuge, you'll have 92 agility and 80 speed. At level 32, it'll be 95/81. You get the jist.
 
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Edited by PsychoMan001 on Jun 30, 2009 08:14:06
Edited by PsychoMan001 on Jun 30, 2009 08:12:36
 
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Originally posted by Mofo
Originally posted by Nuge20

Originally posted by Gart888


Originally posted by Nuge20



Originally posted by Gart888




Originally posted by PsychoMan001





Originally posted by blln4lyf



Nice, but Dooley doesn't have 70+ vision.






wat...I knowz this from teh thingy wit the screen shot from season 7 or 8


go ahead and post that screen shot


I dont have it...I saw it recently (and no not the serenity photoshop with blue zeros)


http://i44.tinypic.com/deli55.png This one? No photoshop

60 SPs ago though



which one is photoshopped?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/Sinder_Shade/Dooley.jpg

there are more too ...
Edited by PsychoMan001 on Jun 30, 2009 08:13:43
 
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