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Originally posted by Iron Maiden
Should I ever put points in Catching or Jumping? What about tackling?

no, yes, probably not

Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Iron Maiden

Should I ever put points in Catching or Jumping? What about tackling?

no, yes, probably not

for sure not tackling, but i dont see why you shouldn't put points in catching. You obviously shouldn't go crazy with it, but i wouldnt condemn a CB who has 60 in catching. i personally think catching and jumping are about equal in importance.

Originally posted by Worker 3
Originally posted by JD Cuda

Originally posted by Iron Maiden


Should I ever put points in Catching or Jumping? What about tackling?

no, yes, probably not

for sure not tackling, but i dont see why you shouldn't put points in catching. You obviously shouldn't go crazy with it, but i wouldnt condemn a CB who has 60 in catching. i personally think catching and jumping are about equal in importance.

I've yet to see Bort say that catching does anything for CBs.
I've yet to see real proof that catching does anything for CBs.
I've seen guys with 55 catching have 10 INT years, and guys with 55 catching have 0 INT years.
I've seen guys with 25 catching have 10 INT years, and guys with 25 catching have 0 INT years.

It makes sense that catching should help with INTs and also increase your PD radius, as it increases the WRs catch radius.
However, I've not seen that happen.

I'd rank attributes' order of importance as:
speed, agility, vision, jumping, strength, stamina, tackling, catching
And I'm in a huge minority with that ranking, but that's how I see it.

dont worry, im probably in an even smaller minority than you.

i go:
vision, agility, speed, jumping/catching, strength, stamina, confidence, tackling.

after raw 68, speed just doesnt do much for you. 68+ agility and vision do wonders.

as for catching. UD has done a lot of work with it, and his arguments seem fairly convincing to me. I dont think it has much to do with INTs (as my CB only has it soft capped, yet has 80 INTs), but more to do with PD radius, as you mentioned. Again, I'm not sure, but then again who knows how the hell bort has all this coded? no one can know. all we can do is speculate and try to set up controlled experiments the best we can, only to have the sim changed the next season.

Levels 1-48

Speed agility vision jumping stamina confidence catching strength tackling

Levels 49+

Vision agility speed catching confidence stamina

Originally posted by Granted86
Levels 1-48

Speed agility vision jumping stamina confidence catching strength tackling

Levels 49+

Vision agility speed catching confidence stamina

Is that an order of importance?

Originally posted by JD Cuda
Originally posted by Granted86

Levels 1-48

Speed agility vision jumping stamina confidence catching strength tackling

Levels 49+

Vision agility speed catching confidence stamina

Is that an order of importance?

yes

so 68 SPD, 68 AGI, and 68 VIS and train everything else? Can someone confirm my tactics:

Tackling Style Wrap-Up
Play Type Focus Pass
Man Coverage Distance -83 = 0.51 yds
Coverage Style Semi-Aggressive
Pass Rush Style Evasive

Should it be Aggressive? Can I play a 0 yrds Distance?

Originally posted by Iron Maiden
so 68 SPD, 68 AGI, and 68 VIS and train everything else? Can someone confirm my tactics:

Tackling Style Wrap-Up
Play Type Focus Pass
Man Coverage Distance -83 = 0.51 yds
Coverage Style Semi-Aggressive
Pass Rush Style Evasive

Should it be Aggressive? Can I play a 0 yrds Distance?

I don't think you quite have the wheels or vision to go with aggressive or 0 yd distance. I think you're good to go with what you have.

Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by JD Cuda

Originally posted by Granted86


Levels 1-48

Speed agility vision jumping stamina confidence catching strength tackling

Levels 49+

Vision agility speed catching confidence stamina

Is that an order of importance?

yes

I find it very interesting that jumping and strength don't matter at the higher levels, and that catching/confidence/stamina all matter more.

I would disagree.

I think you have it all wrong. High catching doesn't lead to more interceptions... high catching will lead to your guy catching the ball more smoothly and being able to actually run with the ball after. So this will potentially lead to more solid returns in yardage and typically more pick 6's. Sometimes thinking offensively isn't bad for a defensive player.

The coach just told our team to get 70 PDs, 9 Ints, and 4 Def TDs over the season. What do I do?

Originally posted by Iron Maiden
The coach just told our team to get 70 PDs, 9 Ints, and 4 Def TDs over the season. What do I do?

That's eerily similar to what one of my corners did last season.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Iron Maiden

The coach just told our team to get 70 PDs, 9 Ints, and 4 Def TDs over the season. What do I do?

That's eerily similar to what one of my corners did last season.

same here... my CB recorded 77 Pds, 8 INTs and 7 INT TDs.

Mine had 145 pds, 11 ints, and 9 int tds.

As for the catching question, it depends a lot on your jumping. With higher jumping, the point on the z-axis at which you can get to the ball increases. The higher that point is, the more catching you need to hit your int roll. So, although it seems like any increase in jumping would help your int chances, it really hurts them if you don't have higher catching to go with it. Of course this is very simplified because so many other factors go into whether you get a good number of ints. If you have higher jumping (in the 60-68 range), you should really have capped catching if you want increased int chances.