So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
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Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
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Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
For an elusive at lvl 88. What would your speed/agility be?
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
For an elusive at lvl 88. What would your speed/agility be?
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Originally posted by Mad Dog23
Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
For an elusive at lvl 88. What would your speed/agility be?
Level 88 isn't possible.
Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
For an elusive at lvl 88. What would your speed/agility be?
Level 88 isn't possible.
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by Mad Dog23
Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
For an elusive at lvl 88. What would your speed/agility be?
Level 88 isn't possible.
Heh. . . it's actually probably possible. . . I wonder what your build would look like? I wonder if there's a point where the decline is so bad that your stats hit zero? Your dot would need a walker just to get out of the locker room.
Originally posted by Mad Dog23
Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
Originally posted by Bladow
So if you have strength at 55 and carrying at 57 for an elusive back would you take carrying to 68 before strength to 61?
i would have taken carrying to 68 before strength any higher than 49
this.
For an elusive at lvl 88. What would your speed/agility be?
Level 88 isn't possible.
Heh. . . it's actually probably possible. . . I wonder what your build would look like? I wonder if there's a point where the decline is so bad that your stats hit zero? Your dot would need a walker just to get out of the locker room.
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Doubt they'd ever hit zero. But level 88 would take you 16+ seasons (boosting every season), and you'd probably be worse off than the average 8 season player on your primary attributes unless you continually pounded them with SP, in which case you'd suck and nobody would hire you. lol
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Originally posted by Daddy Warbucks
Doubt they'd ever hit zero. But level 88 would take you 16+ seasons (boosting every season), and you'd probably be worse off than the average 8 season player on your primary attributes unless you continually pounded them with SP, in which case you'd suck and nobody would hire you. lol
You know, you might get 15+ seasons out of a kicker or a punter, someone who has an absurd natural level of 2-3 attributes. From what I read from Borf it's a bell curve-type decline, so it's going to get pretty sharp at some point. Then again, you never know with that guy, I think he needs a press secretary at this point.
Maybe I'll keep one of my S1 guys around just to see if they can hit zero.
Doubt they'd ever hit zero. But level 88 would take you 16+ seasons (boosting every season), and you'd probably be worse off than the average 8 season player on your primary attributes unless you continually pounded them with SP, in which case you'd suck and nobody would hire you. lol
You know, you might get 15+ seasons out of a kicker or a punter, someone who has an absurd natural level of 2-3 attributes. From what I read from Borf it's a bell curve-type decline, so it's going to get pretty sharp at some point. Then again, you never know with that guy, I think he needs a press secretary at this point.
Maybe I'll keep one of my S1 guys around just to see if they can hit zero.

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I hope it isn't too sharp. Imagine you're a 25 year old kicker or something, just drafted into the NFL. Play 10 seasons, now you're 35, play 5 more seasons and you're 40, but you still have your leg because you stayed fit the entire time instead of drinking beer, smoking cigarettes and being obese, there's no reason you should be the worst player in the game if you want to go for another season. You should have more natural confidence than any other person on the field and in that sense play better.
I think the only attributes that should decline are the purely physical ones. Stamina primarily, then speed and agility, strength, jumping, vision (many people's vision never gets worse in old age either), maybe throwing, carrying, kicking and punting to some degree.
But what do I know? I can't affect what actually happens any more than the next guy so typing all that was pointless.
I think the only attributes that should decline are the purely physical ones. Stamina primarily, then speed and agility, strength, jumping, vision (many people's vision never gets worse in old age either), maybe throwing, carrying, kicking and punting to some degree.
But what do I know? I can't affect what actually happens any more than the next guy so typing all that was pointless.
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Originally posted by PsychoMan001
i wonder what the 'secret' attribute for QBs is ... could it be throwing?!?
confidence IMO
i wonder what the 'secret' attribute for QBs is ... could it be throwing?!?
confidence IMO
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Originally posted by parker01
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
i wonder what the 'secret' attribute for QBs is ... could it be throwing?!?
confidence IMO
agree
Originally posted by PsychoMan001
i wonder what the 'secret' attribute for QBs is ... could it be throwing?!?
confidence IMO
agree
Darren McFadden
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Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by lcrafton
There have been sims done that show that Carrying > Strength when it comes to broken tackles. I can vouch that this is indeed true.
this is false. even if carrying was greater than or equal to strength as far as pure tackle breaking, all of the power SAs rely on strength, not carrying. in the end, strength would be better fit for it anyway.
that's not technically correct. The SAs don't "rely" on anything.
Originally posted by lcrafton
There have been sims done that show that Carrying > Strength when it comes to broken tackles. I can vouch that this is indeed true.
this is false. even if carrying was greater than or equal to strength as far as pure tackle breaking, all of the power SAs rely on strength, not carrying. in the end, strength would be better fit for it anyway.
that's not technically correct. The SAs don't "rely" on anything.
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by lcrafton
There have been sims done that show that Carrying > Strength when it comes to broken tackles. I can vouch that this is indeed true.
this is false. even if carrying was greater than or equal to strength as far as pure tackle breaking, all of the power SAs rely on strength, not carrying. in the end, strength would be better fit for it anyway.
that's not technically correct. The SAs don't "rely" on anything.
Power Through
The runner puts his head and shoulders down and drives his body through defenders. This skill allows the players to break through tackles, even more than Lower the Shoulder.
This skill depends on strength and size to be effective. For a strong rusher, it can break a lot of tackles.
Originally posted by rmiller517
Originally posted by lcrafton
There have been sims done that show that Carrying > Strength when it comes to broken tackles. I can vouch that this is indeed true.
this is false. even if carrying was greater than or equal to strength as far as pure tackle breaking, all of the power SAs rely on strength, not carrying. in the end, strength would be better fit for it anyway.
that's not technically correct. The SAs don't "rely" on anything.
Power Through
The runner puts his head and shoulders down and drives his body through defenders. This skill allows the players to break through tackles, even more than Lower the Shoulder.
This skill depends on strength and size to be effective. For a strong rusher, it can break a lot of tackles.
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Explain why my elusive backs juke/head fake every single play with 30ish carrying?
note - they're both at 61 now and I can't tell a huge difference outside of fumbling less.
note - they're both at 61 now and I can't tell a huge difference outside of fumbling less.
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Originally posted by taurran
Explain why my elusive backs juke/head fake every single play with 30ish carrying?
note - they're both at 61 now and I can't tell a huge difference outside of fumbling less.
theres a fine line between vision and carrying. carrying is "how well he moves with the ball" which i can only assume is the effectiveness of jukes and head fakes. vision is the ability to see defenders in order to perform such skill. if he didnt see the dude, he won't know to juke him.
Explain why my elusive backs juke/head fake every single play with 30ish carrying?
note - they're both at 61 now and I can't tell a huge difference outside of fumbling less.
theres a fine line between vision and carrying. carrying is "how well he moves with the ball" which i can only assume is the effectiveness of jukes and head fakes. vision is the ability to see defenders in order to perform such skill. if he didnt see the dude, he won't know to juke him.
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