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I think we both answered the question

I don't agree that a MLB needs both to 68. If both are raised to 61 relatively early, after speed and agility are both to 61, both should remain sufficiently high to perform at a functional level. After that you tweak based on competition. If I was building a MLB I'd probably do tackling first, so that it would be a point or two higher than strength.

Originally posted by silverbullets
I think we both answered the question

Not really because compared to everything Tackling is actually needed less Add str agility and vision. It comes out way more than tackling. Plus str agility and vision together do so much more for your player.

i think strength is slightly more importain in te game.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by silverbullets

I think we both answered the question

Not really because compared to everything Tackling is actually needed less Add str agility and vision. It comes out way more than tackling. Plus str agility and vision together do so much more for your player.

So what your saying is, you're better off splitting your skill points between two or three attributes rather than putting them in one being tackling. Correct?

Originally posted by silverbullets
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by silverbullets


I think we both answered the question

Not really because compared to everything Tackling is actually needed less Add str agility and vision. It comes out way more than tackling. Plus str agility and vision together do so much more for your player.

So what your saying is, you're better off splitting your skill points between two or three attributes rather than putting them in one being tackling. Correct?

uhhhhh. for defense if your speed, agility, and str aren't respectable tackling won't do crap for you.

One thing tackling does is help you tackle.
One thing str does is help you tackle, it also does about 5 other things in game.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by silverbullets

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by silverbullets



I think we both answered the question

Not really because compared to everything Tackling is actually needed less Add str agility and vision. It comes out way more than tackling. Plus str agility and vision together do so much more for your player.

So what your saying is, you're better off splitting your skill points between two or three attributes rather than putting them in one being tackling. Correct?

uhhhhh. for defense if your speed, agility, and str aren't respectable tackling won't do crap for you.

One thing tackling does is help you tackle.
One thing str does is help you tackle, it also does about 5 other things in game.



As far as a LB goes what are the 5 other things? LB has to know where ball carrier is going (vision), get there (speed/agility), and make the tackle (tackle/str). What are other things LBs do besides tackle.

Play man coverage - No STR needed to do that

Zone Coverage - Still no STR

Take on blocks - some STR, but not being a DT I would expect to have tatics set to evasive so it would be more agility and speed.

Bitz - again evasive so more agility.


Now Im not saying strength isnt important, it depends on the position. MLBs will need more STR as they take on Oline more. OLBs will not need as much str.

As far as a LB goes what are the 5 other things? LB has to know where ball carrier is going (vision), get there (speed/agility), and make the tackle (tackle/str). What are other things LBs do besides tackle.

Play man coverage - No STR needed to do that - wrong

Zone Coverage - Still no STR -wrong

Take on blocks - some STR, but not being a DT I would expect to have tatics set to evasive so it would be more agility and speed.

Bitz - again evasive so more agility. - str still a big factor.

there are still more things str helps with.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
As far as a LB goes what are the 5 other things? LB has to know where ball carrier is going (vision), get there (speed/agility), and make the tackle (tackle/str). What are other things LBs do besides tackle.

Play man coverage - No STR needed to do that - wrong

Zone Coverage - Still no STR -wrong

Take on blocks - some STR, but not being a DT I would expect to have tatics set to evasive so it would be more agility and speed.

Bitz - again evasive so more agility. - str still a big factor.

there are still more things str helps with.






I dont see how playing Zone or Man requires STR. Please explain without refering to the tackle portion of a zone or man play. And what are the other things that a LB does in this game that need STR, Im just not seeing it. Now in real life STR is very important to a LB. But with this game, man, you can get by with soft capping it and leaving it for quite a while if you have the means to get to the ball carrier quickly and effectively, with plenty tackling as well. And with all the bonuses to tackling through Equip and VAs, its not a problem to put STR off till the 3rd ability one would soft cap.

Originally posted by Mike544612
Originally posted by UnderDogs

As far as a LB goes what are the 5 other things? LB has to know where ball carrier is going (vision), get there (speed/agility), and make the tackle (tackle/str). What are other things LBs do besides tackle.

Play man coverage - No STR needed to do that - wrong

Zone Coverage - Still no STR -wrong

Take on blocks - some STR, but not being a DT I would expect to have tatics set to evasive so it would be more agility and speed.

Bitz - again evasive so more agility. - str still a big factor.

there are still more things str helps with.






I dont see how playing Zone or Man requires STR. Please explain without refering to the tackle portion of a zone or man play. And what are the other things that a LB does in this game that need STR, Im just not seeing it. Now in real life STR is very important to a LB. But with this game, man, you can get by with soft capping it and leaving it for quite a while if you have the means to get to the ball carrier quickly and effectively, with plenty tackling as well. And with all the bonuses to tackling through Equip and VAs, its not a problem to put STR off till the 3rd ability one would soft cap.

Believe it or not str helps in pass defense. It helps to get p.d's it helps fight for a bobbled ball, and if you don't believe that, then let's just take a look at jackhammer?

Str makes your guy faster. It's in the roll for all cuts and acceleration. Believe it or not. I don't care.

The more str your linebacker has the more moral and stamina penalties he will cause to the offense when he makes tackles.
The more str he has the less stamina he is zapped himself.

tackling helps you tackle.

need more? I mean I can probably think of at least 5 more things str does to in game performance.

i don't see a point in taking tackling above 49 unless you're missing a shitton of tackles

OLB - Str = Tck = 61
MLB - Str = 68, Tck = 61

I know of a few LB's with 70's in tackling with mid 60's in strength and they lead the league in tackles and one claimed the Defensive MVP (yes this was a competitive league with players in their 40s). Sticking with 48 in tackling as a LB, means you will stick with Wrap-up tackling, or be iffy at balance. The goal of the LB is to stop the ball carier, and grap on to and not to let them take you for an additional yard.

Originally posted by whatje
i don't see a point in taking tackling above 49 unless you're missing a shitton of tackles

Typically you want to prevent that from happening. Raising it after the fact isn't going to accomplish much.

Originally posted by whatje
i don't see a point in taking tackling above 49 unless you're missing a shitton of tackles

eh well for linebackers it's probably important to have at least 61 tackling because you're meeting bruisers inside 8 yards ALOT.