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drakeborn
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
No he is right My S.S's speed and agility are up there. It's just that rather than spending a lot of vision. I sort of sacrificed it for more str.

His formula is pretty right on the mark. I would suggest 61-68 str rather than 48.


Yeah, agreed. As I said, his was a good formula for a coverage SS. It was only the strength part I was commenting on, given the subject of this thread.

 
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Originally posted by seancul55
They don't throw my way often (explains PD's), and most of the time our DL, LB's, or the CB in coverage get the tackle before me because we play almost exclusively cover 2. So, considering that I don't think my stats are too damn bad (I'm back there as a safety net, not a playmaker mixing it up close to the line of scrimmage).


I don't think your stats are bad either. I apologize if it came off that way. I was really just trying to reinforce the value of strength for a strong safety since your post seemed to dismiss it.
 
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by seancul55

They don't throw my way often (explains PD's), and most of the time our DL, LB's, or the CB in coverage get the tackle before me because we play almost exclusively cover 2. So, considering that I don't think my stats are too damn bad (I'm back there as a safety net, not a playmaker mixing it up close to the line of scrimmage).


I don't think your stats are bad either. I apologize if it came off that way. I was really just trying to reinforce the value of strength for a strong safety since your post seemed to dismiss it.


Haha, it's okay. Just me coming off as a douche again
 
Chaka
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I've never built a SS before, is there a guide somewhere for a run stopping SS?
 
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Originally posted by Chaka
I've never built a SS before, is there a guide somewhere for a run stopping SS?


yeah it's called me.
 
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just kidding. PM me I'll give you detailed advice how to build a run stopping S.S. from scratch
 
Dudly
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ya'll don't forget that agl is only a minor att for a SS, dispite it's huge importance, so the value of capping it quick is pretty low.
 
We_Rule
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
just kidding. PM me I'll give you detailed advice how to build a run stopping S.S. from scratch


I would offer to help also.....

 
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Originally posted by Dudly
ya'll don't forget that agl is only a minor att for a SS, dispite it's huge importance, so the value of capping it quick is pretty low.


I'd have to disagree with that statement wholeheartedly. Besides not wanting to get juked and missing tackles and wanting to actually be able to cover recievers, bort has announced in the past that agility helps you get a quicker "first step" as you attempt to get up to speed quickly. I've seen so many busted plays at SS thanks to a lack of agl
 
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Originally posted by seancul55
Originally posted by Dudly

ya'll don't forget that agl is only a minor att for a SS, dispite it's huge importance, so the value of capping it quick is pretty low.


I'd have to disagree with that statement wholeheartedly. Besides not wanting to get juked and missing tackles and wanting to actually be able to cover recievers, bort has announced in the past that agility helps you get a quicker "first step" as you attempt to get up to speed quickly. I've seen so many busted plays at SS thanks to a lack of agl


He isn't suggesting not putting points in to agility. He is suggesting it be done later in the build so that you concentrate on major skills, which see slightly more benefit from capping early. And he is absolutely right if your goal is optimum long-term development.
 
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by seancul55

Originally posted by Dudly


ya'll don't forget that agl is only a minor att for a SS, dispite it's huge importance, so the value of capping it quick is pretty low.


I'd have to disagree with that statement wholeheartedly. Besides not wanting to get juked and missing tackles and wanting to actually be able to cover recievers, bort has announced in the past that agility helps you get a quicker "first step" as you attempt to get up to speed quickly. I've seen so many busted plays at SS thanks to a lack of agl


He isn't suggesting not putting points in to agility. He is suggesting it be done later in the build so that you concentrate on major skills, which see slightly more benefit from capping early. And he is absolutely right if your goal is optimum long-term development.


That's the part I disagree with. At least as a cover 2 coverage SS (which I am), agility is one of the first things you cap.
 
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Originally posted by seancul55
Originally posted by drakeborn

Originally posted by seancul55


Originally posted by Dudly



ya'll don't forget that agl is only a minor att for a SS, dispite it's huge importance, so the value of capping it quick is pretty low.


I'd have to disagree with that statement wholeheartedly. Besides not wanting to get juked and missing tackles and wanting to actually be able to cover recievers, bort has announced in the past that agility helps you get a quicker "first step" as you attempt to get up to speed quickly. I've seen so many busted plays at SS thanks to a lack of agl


He isn't suggesting not putting points in to agility. He is suggesting it be done later in the build so that you concentrate on major skills, which see slightly more benefit from capping early. And he is absolutely right if your goal is optimum long-term development.


That's the part I disagree with. At least as a cover 2 coverage SS (which I am), agility is one of the first things you cap.


Assuming long-term development is your goal, what is the benefit?
 
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Originally posted by seancul55
Originally posted by drakeborn

Originally posted by seancul55


Originally posted by Dudly



ya'll don't forget that agl is only a minor att for a SS, dispite it's huge importance, so the value of capping it quick is pretty low.


I'd have to disagree with that statement wholeheartedly. Besides not wanting to get juked and missing tackles and wanting to actually be able to cover recievers, bort has announced in the past that agility helps you get a quicker "first step" as you attempt to get up to speed quickly. I've seen so many busted plays at SS thanks to a lack of agl


He isn't suggesting not putting points in to agility. He is suggesting it be done later in the build so that you concentrate on major skills, which see slightly more benefit from capping early. And he is absolutely right if your goal is optimum long-term development.


That's the part I disagree with. At least as a cover 2 coverage SS (which I am), agility is one of the first things you cap..... him speaking...

as a cover 2 ss you're build will still suffer from capping agl quick

Edited by Dudly on Jun 14, 2009 21:28:25
Edited by Dudly on Jun 14, 2009 21:27:45
 
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Originally posted by We_Rule
Originally posted by UnderDogs

just kidding. PM me I'll give you detailed advice how to build a run stopping S.S. from scratch


I would offer to help also.....



Thanks for the offer to help but I decided to make a MLB..never made one of them either.
 
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Originally posted by Chaka
Originally posted by We_Rule

Originally posted by UnderDogs


just kidding. PM me I'll give you detailed advice how to build a run stopping S.S. from scratch


I would offer to help also.....



Thanks for the offer to help but I decided to make a MLB..never made one of them either.


it's pretty much the same.
 
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