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Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by Asheme
Originally posted by mmuhr

why? My CB is fine with 60. Its not MANDATORY, like everyone says. Its good, but not necessary. You'll shut down fine without it. Im sure it helps with ints though.

If you're wanting to compete in the best pro leagues, it should be mandatory imo.


Agreed. Vision is okay at a lower level and in lower leagues, but if you want to end up in the Pros, you need it to keep up with awesome wrs and really really good qbs.
 
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Ill probably be bringing it to 68 anyways next season....
 
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75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.
 
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Originally posted by Crazed_Penguin
75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.


I'm also wondering how slow you are. Or If your level is so high it makes you better than everyone else.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
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75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.


I'm also wondering how slow you are. Or If your level is so high it makes you better than everyone else.


He's level 54. And vision at 75 doesn't necessarily mean he is slow. He might be sacrificing elsewhere, or he could just have a really good build. If you are willing to Crazed, I'd like to see your cb's build.
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
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Originally posted by Crazed_Penguin


75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.


I'm also wondering how slow you are. Or If your level is so high it makes you better than everyone else.


He's level 54. And vision at 75 doesn't necessarily mean he is slow. He might be sacrificing elsewhere, or he could just have a really good build. If you are willing to Crazed, I'd like to see your cb's build.


which one? Open yes man I would like to compare my level 34's to your level 44 and completely embarrass you.
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Crazed_Penguin



75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.


I'm also wondering how slow you are. Or If your level is so high it makes you better than everyone else.


He's level 54. And vision at 75 doesn't necessarily mean he is slow. He might be sacrificing elsewhere, or he could just have a really good build. If you are willing to Crazed, I'd like to see your cb's build.


which one? Open yes man I would like to compare my level 34's to your level 44 and completely embarrass you.


Aren't you the same guy whose been trying to get me to open Yes Man by insulting me in multiple threads? Yes Man: The Massacre was open almost the entire offseason anyway; you could have seen him. And there is no way you would embarrass me with your level 34s.
 
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Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


Originally posted by UnderDogs



Originally posted by Crazed_Penguin




75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.


I'm also wondering how slow you are. Or If your level is so high it makes you better than everyone else.


He's level 54. And vision at 75 doesn't necessarily mean he is slow. He might be sacrificing elsewhere, or he could just have a really good build. If you are willing to Crazed, I'd like to see your cb's build.


which one? Open yes man I would like to compare my level 34's to your level 44 and completely embarrass you.


Aren't you the same guy whose been trying to get me to open Yes Man by insulting me in multiple threads? Yes Man: The Massacre was open almost the entire offseason anyway; you could have seen him. And there is no way you would embarrass me with your level 34s.


I have no idea who you are. this would be the first time I have ever seen you. And quite frankly I don't need to look at other people's shitty builds I build the way I want. I don't need shitty references.
 
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If you don't know who I am, you don't know much about cbs. I'm one of the top cb builders in the game and run the most important cb forum in the game. And as for shitty builds, there is a reason Yes Man is on one of the best teams in the game: he is a really awesome build. As for my other two, they are the best cbs at their level. My level 44 had offers from Pro Championship winning teams, and my level 21 will be even better. You can talk trash all you want, but you have no way to back it up. I can back up everything I say.
 
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Fwiw, my CB has 80+ vision and is slow as shit.

He rocks.

 
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It is sent, Longhorn, check your PM's.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by Longhornfan1024



Originally posted by UnderDogs




Originally posted by Crazed_Penguin





75 vision with 9 SV is doing wonders for me.


I'm also wondering how slow you are. Or If your level is so high it makes you better than everyone else.


He's level 54. And vision at 75 doesn't necessarily mean he is slow. He might be sacrificing elsewhere, or he could just have a really good build. If you are willing to Crazed, I'd like to see your cb's build.


which one? Open yes man I would like to compare my level 34's to your level 44 and completely embarrass you.


Aren't you the same guy whose been trying to get me to open Yes Man by insulting me in multiple threads? Yes Man: The Massacre was open almost the entire offseason anyway; you could have seen him. And there is no way you would embarrass me with your level 34s.


I have no idea who you are. this would be the first time I have ever seen you. And quite frankly I don't need to look at other people's shitty builds I build the way I want. I don't need shitty references.


Wooo pyramid!!! I know longhorns build. Maybe ill tell you sometime UD. It is pretty good. And longhornfan does have the best private CB forum in the entire sportsmmorpg business.
But Longhorn, did we really get offers from pro teams? Maybe they only sent them to you and not to my CB.
Yeah but neither of your 21s or 24s are the best. Boxy Brown is better then Nodonage and YesmanIII hahahahahahahahaha

And yes you would be lying or being extremely forgetful if you said you have no idea who longhornfan is.
 
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But yeah I think 74vision is wayyyyy to much IMO. He doesnt have to be slow, maybe he sacrificed SAs such as CD or capping catching or somethin. I would say probably not worth it though.
 
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Yes Man: The Massacre did get offers from Pro teams before we went as a pair. I turned them down, though, because I wanted to play on the same team with you, and because I want to wait one more season before going Pro.

As for Boxy Brown . . . pssh. Yes Man III will own him.

As for 74 in vision. I think it is a very good goal if you can get there without too much sacrifice. CP was able to do a pretty damn good job of it. If I had enough money, I'd test running at 90/85/75, 88/87/75, and 85/90/75 to see how that works compared to my current set up. I think either of those combos could work really well.
 
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Originally posted by Asheme
Originally posted by mmuhr

why? My CB is fine with 60. Its not MANDATORY, like everyone says. Its good, but not necessary. You'll shut down fine without it. Im sure it helps with ints though.

If you're wanting to compete in the best pro leagues, it should be mandatory imo.


this. your in the minors. wait till you get to big leagues bud. vision below the 68 cap is bad
 
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