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Not much you can do when Power running SAs activates, doesn't really matter what strength/tackling you have, once stiff arm/lower shoulder/power through activates, you are going to miss the tackle.

Elusive SAs are also the same, doesn't matter how much vision or SV you have, when headfake/juke activates, you will shrink.

Originally posted by datongw
Not much you can do when Power running SAs activates, doesn't really matter what strength/tackling you have, once stiff arm/lower shoulder/power through activates, you are going to miss the tackle.

Elusive SAs are also the same, doesn't matter how much vision or SV you have, when headfake/juke activates, you will shrink.

thats just dumb

Originally posted by datongw
Not much you can do when Power running SAs activates, doesn't really matter what strength/tackling you have, once stiff arm/lower shoulder/power through activates, you are going to miss the tackle.

Elusive SAs are also the same, doesn't matter how much vision or SV you have, when headfake/juke activates, you will shrink.

My take on it is that if one of the SAs fires off and fails the roll, it just doesn't show up on the PBP. If it activates and succeeds, then it shows up as [missed tackle: player x (Power Through)].

Vision and SV will certainly help you avoid a fake and make the roll required to pull off a successful fake higher.

Originally posted by jearly
apparently 96.3 str and 67.7 tackling means you can make one tackle and miss 6 tackles out of 7 opportunities.

outstanding!

Originally posted by datongw
Not much you can do when Power running SAs activates, doesn't really matter what strength/tackling you have, once stiff arm/lower shoulder/power through activates, you are going to miss the tackle.

Elusive SAs are also the same, doesn't matter how much vision or SV you have, when headfake/juke activates, you will shrink.

It looks like that, but not necessarily true. There won't appear if the SA trigger and the HB get tackled anyway. What I mean is that you won't ever know how often the SAs trigger and fail breaking the tackle because there is no text like "Lower shoulder but tackled" or "Lower shoulder but failed breaking the tackle" and so on.

Originally posted by xManning1018x
Originally posted by datongw

Not much you can do when Power running SAs activates, doesn't really matter what strength/tackling you have, once stiff arm/lower shoulder/power through activates, you are going to miss the tackle.

Elusive SAs are also the same, doesn't matter how much vision or SV you have, when headfake/juke activates, you will shrink.

My take on it is that if one of the SAs fires off and fails the roll, it just doesn't show up on the PBP. If it activates and succeeds, then it shows up as [missed tackle: player x (Power Through)].

Vision and SV will certainly help you avoid a fake and make the roll required to pull off a successful fake higher.

I agree with this and luzod's post

/agree. When 2 LBs built for tackling and a DT like this miss 17 tackles and only make 20 there is something a little off, regardless of who the HB is. You don't see guys like Urlacher miss 6 tackles against a HB like Brandon Jacobs.

TBH this was an issue from seasons past. I posted something regarding this after our defense (including our NTs 100+ strength and 70+ tackling) missing tackles against MEM last season, people's response was get more strength and tackling. I've come to terms with that Bort wants to make this game like Tecmo, and missing tackles is just going to be part of the game.

Originally posted by jearly
Originally posted by xManning1018x

Originally posted by datongw


Not much you can do when Power running SAs activates, doesn't really matter what strength/tackling you have, once stiff arm/lower shoulder/power through activates, you are going to miss the tackle.

Elusive SAs are also the same, doesn't matter how much vision or SV you have, when headfake/juke activates, you will shrink.

My take on it is that if one of the SAs fires off and fails the roll, it just doesn't show up on the PBP. If it activates and succeeds, then it shows up as [missed tackle: player x (Power Through)].

Vision and SV will certainly help you avoid a fake and make the roll required to pull off a successful fake higher.

I agree with this and luzod's post

I agree this to an extent. The only thing is that I see the amount of SAs activating against different defenders about the same rate. For example, one would assume that power through would activate a lot more against DBs than DTs since most DBs don't have the strength/tackling to fight off the SA roll, where as DTs should be able to fight off the roll on a more frequent basis. But from what I've seen, DTs gets power throughed/stiff armed just as much as DBs.

Originally posted by kr0n
i have less str/tack than you and have missed maybe 6-7 all year (4 in one game on power)

i guess builds dont mean anything, eh?

sure tackler

Originally posted by remus7x
Originally posted by kr0n

i have less str/tack than you and have missed maybe 6-7 all year (4 in one game on power)

i guess builds dont mean anything, eh?

sure tackler

yep, you either have sure tackler, or you fail.

Yep, attributes are important! VA's just augment the game.

Originally posted by islander1
Originally posted by remus7x

Originally posted by kr0n


i have less str/tack than you and have missed maybe 6-7 all year (4 in one game on power)

i guess builds dont mean anything, eh?

sure tackler

yep, you either have sure tackler, or you fail.

Yep, attributes are important! VA's just augment the game.

Jack Hammer ftw

I like the ones where the HB spins out of one tackle and stiff arms another guy at the same time. Golden.

VA's have ruined the game.