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kingofgod
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Originally posted by PackAttack785
I heard Juke was better, and earlier on the tree. Why not a Juke Back?


Doing what everyone else is doing isnt any fun.
 
EagleOtto
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Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by PackAttack785

I heard Juke was better, and earlier on the tree. Why not a Juke Back?


Doing what everyone else is doing isnt any fun.


Exactly...

Also some of us are trying to stay ahead of the curve, instead of running behind it...
 
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Originally posted by EagleOtto
Originally posted by kingofgod

Originally posted by PackAttack785


I heard Juke was better, and earlier on the tree. Why not a Juke Back?


Doing what everyone else is doing isnt any fun.


Exactly...

Also some of us are trying to stay ahead of the curve, instead of running behind it...


No SA is the way to go then. Bort only nerfs things.
 
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Oh I didn't say i want to be unnerf-able..

I figure if I make about 8 experimental builds...one of them might turn out interesting
 
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Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by PackAttack785
Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


No, he didn't. In fact, he said the opposite.
 
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by PackAttack785

Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


No, he didn't. In fact, he said the opposite.


Look it up, you are wrong.
 
kingofgod
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Originally posted by PackAttack785
Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


bort has confirmed that SAs over 10 have diminishing returns
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by PackAttack785
Originally posted by drakeborn

Originally posted by PackAttack785


Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


No, he didn't. In fact, he said the opposite.


Look it up, you are wrong.


Believe what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.
 
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Originally posted by drakeborn
Originally posted by PackAttack785

Originally posted by drakeborn


Originally posted by PackAttack785



Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


No, he didn't. In fact, he said the opposite.


Look it up, you are wrong.


Believe what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2725017

My bad "diminish returns", still far from what you stated. For the points you put in it's definitely not worth the risk.
 
kingofgod
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Exactly what I stated.


Originally posted by kingofgod
Originally posted by PackAttack785

Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


bort has confirmed that SAs over 10 have diminishing returns


 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by PackAttack785
Originally posted by drakeborn

Originally posted by PackAttack785


Originally posted by drakeborn



Originally posted by PackAttack785




Bort said SAs over 11 do nothing and can't confirm if 11 makes a difference.


No, he didn't. In fact, he said the opposite.


Look it up, you are wrong.


Believe what you want, but it doesn't change the truth.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2725017

My bad "diminish returns", still far from what you stated. For the points you put in it's definitely not worth the risk.


What risk? Serious question.



(By the way, it is pretty humorous that you started another thread to prove yourself wrong. )

 
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SHHHH, i like the fact that not many people go over 10 with SAs....
Its one of the few advantages I still have left.


No one even correctly remembers what Bort said on the subject anyways....because he said 'some' SAs have diminishing returns....
He specifically pointed out juke and pump fake, because he said otherwise they would always work

Edited by EagleOtto on May 29, 2009 01:13:28
 
drakeborn
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Originally posted by EagleOtto
SHHHH, i like the fact that not many people go over 10 with SAs....
Its one of the few advantages I still have left.


No one even correctly remembers what Bort said on the subject anyways....because he said 'some' SAs have diminishing returns....
He specifically pointed out juke and pump fake, because he said otherwise they would always work



Actually, I do remember what he said. That's why I chuckle when people said Bort stated they had diminishing returns when he actually said it was "sorta like diminishing returns" but actually just some limits on certain SAs.

Here are the quotes....



Originally posted by Bort
SA at 11 works fine. It's currently just impossible to get it higher, since you can only get a natural 10, and a +1 from your custom equipment.

The new equipment stuff will allow you to get some more +1's, though, so you could theoretically get up to 15.




Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Nixx

Some SAs would be very powerful at 15, heh. I'm sure it'll take at least a few seasons to get it upgraded to that though, right?


Yeah they'd be pretty good, but not a huge ton better than 11 really, based on the way that most of them work. Yes it would take a while to get something to lv 15, not to mention all the SP's you have to spend to get to lv 10 naturally!


Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by phthalatemagic

But there is a difference between 11 and 15? Or 11 and 10 for that matter? Sorry if I missed it, but I never saw you confirm.


Yes there is a difference.


Originally posted by Bort
Originally posted by Nixx

Interesting. Kind of diminishing returns, logarithmic scale or whatever? Going from 9 to 10 gives more than going from 10 to 11?


Sorta; there's just some special stuff in there for stuff greater than 10 to keep things from getting horribly broken (like autofake every time or something LOL)


Edited by drakeborn on May 29, 2009 05:59:58
 
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I can think of better uses of AE/SPs than to raise a SA over 11, like having multiple SAs at 9-10.
 
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