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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by brandon.hotchkiss
WHy cant I get a damn SACK???? lol
I had 13 hurries this game... and no sacks... Any thoughts
QB vision check - it gives them a preference to dump offs rather than getting sacked. Bort has it set way too high for DEs to actually get any sacks. Supposively Bort tone it down a bit last month, but the results are minimal.
So in reality it's really nothing DE build can do as the QB vision check is not a check-off against the DE build (like blocking), but simply QB's own calculation. If the QB has high vision check he's not going to get sack by anybody.
My DE has gotten plenty of sacks.
Brandon's needs to get agility a lot higher (+20 at least), especially if he expects that SB SA to do much for him.
25 is not plenty of sacks.
Also, I didn't say nobody can get sacks anymore. Just that if you play a QB with a high Vision Check then you're out of luck. You will still get sacks, but when your DE has tons of hurries in a given game then it's not your build, but the QB's vision check. He can have 30 more speed, agility, and strength and it won't make a difference on a QB with high vision check.
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by brandon.hotchkiss
WHy cant I get a damn SACK???? lol
I had 13 hurries this game... and no sacks... Any thoughts
QB vision check - it gives them a preference to dump offs rather than getting sacked. Bort has it set way too high for DEs to actually get any sacks. Supposively Bort tone it down a bit last month, but the results are minimal.
So in reality it's really nothing DE build can do as the QB vision check is not a check-off against the DE build (like blocking), but simply QB's own calculation. If the QB has high vision check he's not going to get sack by anybody.
My DE has gotten plenty of sacks.
Brandon's needs to get agility a lot higher (+20 at least), especially if he expects that SB SA to do much for him.
25 is not plenty of sacks.
Also, I didn't say nobody can get sacks anymore. Just that if you play a QB with a high Vision Check then you're out of luck. You will still get sacks, but when your DE has tons of hurries in a given game then it's not your build, but the QB's vision check. He can have 30 more speed, agility, and strength and it won't make a difference on a QB with high vision check.
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
Motiak
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Originally posted by Dudeamis
Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by brandon.hotchkiss
WHy cant I get a damn SACK???? lol
I had 13 hurries this game... and no sacks... Any thoughts
QB vision check - it gives them a preference to dump offs rather than getting sacked. Bort has it set way too high for DEs to actually get any sacks. Supposively Bort tone it down a bit last month, but the results are minimal.
So in reality it's really nothing DE build can do as the QB vision check is not a check-off against the DE build (like blocking), but simply QB's own calculation. If the QB has high vision check he's not going to get sack by anybody.
My DE has gotten plenty of sacks.
Brandon's needs to get agility a lot higher (+20 at least), especially if he expects that SB SA to do much for him.
25 is not plenty of sacks.
Also, I didn't say nobody can get sacks anymore. Just that if you play a QB with a high Vision Check then you're out of luck. You will still get sacks, but when your DE has tons of hurries in a given game then it's not your build, but the QB's vision check. He can have 30 more speed, agility, and strength and it won't make a difference on a QB with high vision check.
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
There are more snaps/game in GLB than NFL, other positions put up much better than "dominating in NFL" stats. I don't understand why DEs are the ones who get relegated to the red-headed step child build other than the fact that it's a hard balance and if it's broken towards DEs it can be game-breaking but if it's broken towards OTs you just have angry DE customers instead of angry whole offenses.
Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by Dudly
Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by brandon.hotchkiss
WHy cant I get a damn SACK???? lol
I had 13 hurries this game... and no sacks... Any thoughts
QB vision check - it gives them a preference to dump offs rather than getting sacked. Bort has it set way too high for DEs to actually get any sacks. Supposively Bort tone it down a bit last month, but the results are minimal.
So in reality it's really nothing DE build can do as the QB vision check is not a check-off against the DE build (like blocking), but simply QB's own calculation. If the QB has high vision check he's not going to get sack by anybody.
My DE has gotten plenty of sacks.
Brandon's needs to get agility a lot higher (+20 at least), especially if he expects that SB SA to do much for him.
25 is not plenty of sacks.
Also, I didn't say nobody can get sacks anymore. Just that if you play a QB with a high Vision Check then you're out of luck. You will still get sacks, but when your DE has tons of hurries in a given game then it's not your build, but the QB's vision check. He can have 30 more speed, agility, and strength and it won't make a difference on a QB with high vision check.
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
There are more snaps/game in GLB than NFL, other positions put up much better than "dominating in NFL" stats. I don't understand why DEs are the ones who get relegated to the red-headed step child build other than the fact that it's a hard balance and if it's broken towards DEs it can be game-breaking but if it's broken towards OTs you just have angry DE customers instead of angry whole offenses.
Edited by Motiak on May 27, 2009 04:59:49
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Not for nothing, my DE got his 25 sacks on 35 plays per game...
someone will say that he isn't in a "competetive league" but if you take the time to look back through the games he was mainly up against equal or higher competition.
the crybabies are looking for an excuse, everyone else is figuring out solutions.
someone will say that he isn't in a "competetive league" but if you take the time to look back through the games he was mainly up against equal or higher competition.
the crybabies are looking for an excuse, everyone else is figuring out solutions.
Motiak
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Originally posted by Dudly
Not for nothing, my DE got his 25 sacks on 35 plays per game...
someone will say that he isn't in a "competetive league" but if you take the time to look back through the games he was mainly up against equal or higher competition.
the crybabies are looking for an excuse, everyone else is figuring out solutions.
I guarantee I've tried your DE's build and it hasn't worked for me. I went from a lower level league where my guy just easily destroyed everyone to a just slightly less lower level league and got shutout almost every game.
Not for nothing, my DE got his 25 sacks on 35 plays per game...
someone will say that he isn't in a "competetive league" but if you take the time to look back through the games he was mainly up against equal or higher competition.
the crybabies are looking for an excuse, everyone else is figuring out solutions.
I guarantee I've tried your DE's build and it hasn't worked for me. I went from a lower level league where my guy just easily destroyed everyone to a just slightly less lower level league and got shutout almost every game.
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Originally posted by Dudeamis
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
No offense. but 600 yards rushing is average. 900-1000 is good. 1600-1800 is amazing, anything over 2000 have been done what? 5 times? There are running backs on this game with 8000 rushing yards and 180 td's.
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
No offense. but 600 yards rushing is average. 900-1000 is good. 1600-1800 is amazing, anything over 2000 have been done what? 5 times? There are running backs on this game with 8000 rushing yards and 180 td's.
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Originally posted by Dudeamis
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
This isn't the NFL.
You have to play your garbage lvl 49 DE in a BBB League, just to let him think about getting sacks.
You've been preaching that same bullshit every single time you hear the word DE mentioned, and every time someone owns your ass.
So no, your opinion isn't really needed in this thread, or any other thread, tbh.
Maybe next time you'll do yourself a favor, and STFU.
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
This isn't the NFL.
You have to play your garbage lvl 49 DE in a BBB League, just to let him think about getting sacks.
You've been preaching that same bullshit every single time you hear the word DE mentioned, and every time someone owns your ass.
So no, your opinion isn't really needed in this thread, or any other thread, tbh.
Maybe next time you'll do yourself a favor, and STFU.
Edited by Bukowski on May 28, 2009 06:32:46
Edited by Bukowski on May 28, 2009 06:31:21
Dudly
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by Dudeamis
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
This isn't the NFL.
You have to play your garbage lvl 49 DE in a BBB League, just to let him think about getting sacks.
You've been preaching that same bullshit every single time you hear the word DE mentioned, and every time someone owns your ass.
So no, your opinion isn't really needed in this thread, or any other thread, tbh.
Maybe next time you'll do yourself a favor, and STFU.
Bukowski, I have a lvl 38 DE and the only playe in the league to get more sacks was a lvl 49 and the DE right behind me was a lvl 46.
Is your all's final goal to just say nothing works? People get upset if anyone argues against the "DEs are broken" line of thought. Fatalism has been short term cool at times but it always ages quick.
If you need advice you can pm me.
Originally posted by Dudeamis
25 sacks is dominating in the NFL, 20 is league leading, 15 is top tier, 10 is good, 5-7 is average. You people are expecting unrealistic stats.
This isn't the NFL.
You have to play your garbage lvl 49 DE in a BBB League, just to let him think about getting sacks.
You've been preaching that same bullshit every single time you hear the word DE mentioned, and every time someone owns your ass.
So no, your opinion isn't really needed in this thread, or any other thread, tbh.
Maybe next time you'll do yourself a favor, and STFU.
Bukowski, I have a lvl 38 DE and the only playe in the league to get more sacks was a lvl 49 and the DE right behind me was a lvl 46.
Is your all's final goal to just say nothing works? People get upset if anyone argues against the "DEs are broken" line of thought. Fatalism has been short term cool at times but it always ages quick.
If you need advice you can pm me.
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