Warrior General Games

Originally posted by rellascout
Originally posted by fujicrow

I don't think the difference is as big as people let on. It's true the west has more teams at the bottom, and maybe one or two more teams competing at the top, but by and large the conferences are much the same.

Top 3 teams on each side can beat anyone here.



top two teams on our side. Assuming you wax the Bungholes when you get your shot.

]Originally posted by fujicrow

Who looks at their shoes when they pee?

While I personally love fresh veggies (especially broccoli and cabbage! I eat raw cabbage like apples, they're awesome) it's kind of strange that you mention salads and protein shakes together. One really doesn't have much to do with the other. I would assume you'd only force down protein shakes while you were trying to build mass, and if that were the case there's no real reason to eat salads unless you personally enjoy them. Salads provide alot of nutrients, but that's just one way to get them. When you're building mass you take in as much protein and calories as possible, in order to match the energy you're spending each day working out. Now if you want to work with a nutritionist and have each meal meassured so that you're at your peak for building muscle without having any excess calories to burn later that's fine. But it's fairly common practice to go through periods of building then following up with a period of cutting. What's even more common though, is to neither cut nor build but simply match a good ammount of excercise with a healthy diet and adjust either when needed. Most people aren't really concerned with image that much and simply live however is most comfortable for them. I have one brother who has done alot of powerlifting and counts every meal and keeps close eyes on his pecs, while another just loosens his belt every other year, while I personally just eat what I want and exercise just enough to keep the weight off (it gets harder once your metabolism drops off in your middle years). It used to be i'd eat like a horse and still struggle to keep weight on, man would I love to have that problem now. But anyways, there isn't any "right" way to live, excercise or diet. Live to be happy, if happiness is in a pull-up bar, good for you. If it's somewhere in the bottom of a bag of dognuts, awesome! I just don't think whether or not someone looks at their shoes while urinating really says that much about the person.

How wrong are you? Protein shakes are 250 calorie meal replacements that keep your body fueled and lean. Have you ever lifted weights? Here is my diet 6 outta 7 days a week. Breakfast 2 sccop whey before workout, after workout 2 scoop whey, 2 banana. 2 hr later 1 chicken breast salad. Lunch chicken or salmon, and a 40 gram carb meal. snack afternoon shake. Dinner steak/chick/or fish salad, and potato. b4 bead shake again. I eat to maintain a healthy lifestyle, while maintaining as much lean mass as possible. Too be a body builder would insinuate that I compete. Quite the contrary, my only motivation is looking good in suits, at the beach, and living a long healthy life. My weight won't fluctuate more than 2-3 lbs a year, and I no longer worry about putting on mass or taking off mass. I can maintain my body as is year round. "Force down protein shakes to add mass" This is the most uneducated assumption I have ever heard. You have 0 idea what you are talking about. Muscle Milk, is one of the top selling protein shakes in the world, and 55% of the people who buy them are women. You couldn't be more off base

Well seeing as how any nutritionist or even anyone who passed a 9th grade health class could tell you that "meal replacements" are not the healthiest of dietary habbits and your posts about salads and such I assumed health was of interest to you. Protein shakes are most often used as a protein suppliment only, maybe it would be used to chase down 7-8 egg whites in the morning..., but meal replacement? Not likely. I'm sure women and some guys will use these things to stay "lean and trim", but that's working because you're REPLACING A MEAL WITH A SHAKE! Dropping a meal and the calories it represents isn't going to aid you in adding muscle mass, in fact it's more likely to decrease it, but that doesn't mean because you drop weight by depriving your body fuel by replacing meals with a protein shake that that is what protein shakes are for.

Have I ever lifted weights? Yes, but not extensively, as I stated I workout much as any normal person would, just enough to stay in decent health. Most of my knowledge of the subject comes second hand from my brother who DOES lift weights and has entered in power lifting competitions. So while I don't know much about squirly guys guzzling shakes to look good in a g-string, I do know what 350lb giants do in order to add even more muscle to a rediculously oversized body. I'm sorry, but i'll take advice from a 6'4 350lb powerlifter (who i've witnessed benching 450 lbs like it was nothing) and self-professed health nut over some random dude on the internet who likes to take pictures of himself. Just off of what i've learned over the years i'd say Based on your average diet, you're probably depriving your body of calories, assuming you lead an active lifestyle, which would explain why your weight doesn't fluxuate. Anyone who works out regularly and has a well balanced diet will see their weight fluxuate, because if you're feeding your body what it needs and working muscles, there will be growth which = added weight. With that added weight will come the need for added calories to maintain the weight and if it's not met you'll slowly lose what was gained to match what you're putting back into it. That's just common sense, you don't even have to know much about it to know that much. If your weight doesn't fluctuate more than a lb or 2 annually, that's a clear sign of either A) strict diet and exercise routine designed specifically for that purpose or b) A diet that doesn't completely compensate for the exorcise routine so growth grows stagnate or possibly C) well planned diet with no real exercise regimen, while you will stay at the same weight, you won't really "look good in suits or at the beach" Since you've said you don't have any goals to lifting or bodybuilding but take pride in looking good on the beach, I assume that for you it's B.

None of that really matters, whatever you want to do with your life is cool beans. In fact that was my point, no one lifestyle is better than the other. You've made snide comments about people who are either smaller than you or heavier than you, and there's no point in it. It would be like if I came on here and made comments against meatheads and people who post pictures of their fat lower lips. Whatever floats your boat is your deal, i've never dogged anyone for marching to the beat of their own drum, but everyone else doesn't have to be wrong or somehow less than you for you to be happy. Or at least it shouldn't be that way, and if it is, that's your problem and not everyone else's.

meal replacements" are not the healthiest of dietary habbits and your posts about salads and such I assumed health was of interest to you. Completely False. There is more nourishment in a meal replacement than in almost any other option, if combined with a healthy diet, there is nothing more nutritious for someone. The vitamins, protein, and overall nourishment combined into a 240-300 calorie shake is mind blowing, mixed with 3-4 healthy meals a day you could not eat any healthier if you tried. The huge benefit to these are they help MAINTAIN, and promote muscle gains by keeping your body in a positive nitrogen balance. What do 350 lb guys who want to be strong do? Pretty easy eat 6-8 meals a day 50 gram protein every meal, pound 1-2 cups of oatmeal for breakfast, lots of rice potatos, and if they are over 350lbs they obviously dont skimp on fats. 450 lb bench is pathetic. IF you are 6'4 350lbs, and you can't bench WAY over 600 lbs you are flawed beyond belief or have terrible genetics. my best weight lift was 415x4 which translates to 470. Also I Did this while weighing 245. This is not that impressive in any way, and is in no way a sign of me boasting about it. It is a fact, weight lifting is not rocket science, and your posts are so off base I feel like I am giving a class.

Deprivation of calories? negative. I eat 7-8 meals a day to always be in a positive state. So my body feeds off the energy I am consuming, and never feeds off my muscles. I have not lost any strength since I Have started maintaining my body at its current weight, and like I said, I don't train for any reason other than to be healthy, and keep my body looking sharp. I am totally consistent and by doing this my body never, ever fluctuates. If I wanted to gain weight, I would add 2 pieces of fruit, 2 cups of rice, and 1 scoop of peanut butter with 3 of my daily shakes, and I would start to add lean mass at about 1-2 lbs of shredded muscle per month. Maybe I would also take 1-2 cardio sessions off a week as well.

You citing my personal attacks on skinny or fat people. The only reason for this was because insecure people had to attack my picture because genetically, and/or mentally they are never able to look like me. So they attack it as a fake, or as me hiding behind something, when in fact I lay it all out there profile me, I got my twin sons on my main page, as well as myself as my avatar on about 100 players. I stole the idea from Samraiwise, but nonethe less I thought it was a genius idea. Your take on me being for B) was correct, because at this stage in my life, I want a healthy body, and no longer want to do heavy squats/deadlifts to maintain a more muscular physique.

Wow...

Just glancing at these rankings makes me think they are a bit "whack" to say the least!

Chicago Lazer Squirrels = rank 22.
Steamboat Springs Mountaineers = rank 13.

We beat them in the first game...

OK, I totally understand this is similar to the BCS and all, but how is it possible for a 1 and 4 team to be ranked so much higher than a 4 and 1 team they LOST to????

*shrug*

You misunderstand, I said I watched him bench 450 lbs like it was nothing, not that it was all he could bench. He was at my house and admittedly that's all the weight I have because i'm not a meathead like my bro. Somewhere past 10 reps (he was tossing them up there like it was an empty bar) I told him to stop that he was giving me a complex. Myself i'm neither big nor small at around 6' and 190 lbs, my top max bench was 320 or 330 or something, max squat something like 1,050 lbs (last time I maxed squat was a long long time ago so not sure I could do that now), not the most weight anyone's ever going to lift, but probably not the least either. I like to think of myself somewhere around average. My body weight fluctuates anywhere from 185-195 lbs, as long as it's near that range when i'm on the scale I consider it a normal weigh. Once I hit my 30 something roadblock and my metabolism dropped way down I porked upwards to around 215-220lbs or so a couple times before I became accustomed to the change and adjusted my diet accordingly. The point is in my experience it's normal for body weight to fluctuate and whenever my weight hit a "wall" and stayed the same there was a problem with my diet "stunting" my bodies ability to regenerate muscle tissue or "grow" muscle.

I say my brother is 350 but in truth I don't know his exact weight, but I know he's a pretty damn big dude and somewhere in the 300-350lb range. It's funny that you say my posts are off base, because I feel the same about yours. I know from my personal experiences and my brother's nagging and calling me a "runt" and giving me all these tips on how to get bigger and gain mass over the years.... I'm not a fitness expert, and I wouldn't even say my brother is, but he didn't get that damned big by accident. If he tells me "this is how I gain muscle mass", I can see that he's about half the size of a barn so I give his experiences a little bit of weight. Whether you think he's right or wrong, he obviously did something right or he wouldn't be the size of a small truck. So if I have my brother, who I know is a damn big and strong dude, telling me one thing and some dude that claims to be a somewhat average sized dude not much bigger than myself tells me something different, i'm going with my bro. Sorry man.

Originally posted by fujicrow
You misunderstand, I said I watched him bench 450 lbs like it was nothing, not that it was all he could bench. He was at my house and admittedly that's all the weight I have because i'm not a meathead like my bro. Somewhere past 10 reps (he was tossing them up there like it was an empty bar) I told him to stop that he was giving me a complex. Myself i'm neither big nor small at around 6' and 190 lbs, my top max bench was 320 or 330 or something, max squat something like 1,050 lbs (last time I maxed squat was a long long time ago so not sure I could do that now), not the most weight anyone's ever going to lift, but probably not the least either. I like to think of myself somewhere around average. My body weight fluctuates anywhere from 185-195 lbs, as long as it's near that range when i'm on the scale I consider it a normal weigh. Once I hit my 30 something roadblock and my metabolism dropped way down I porked upwards to around 215-220lbs or so a couple times before I became accustomed to the change and adjusted my diet accordingly. The point is in my experience it's normal for body weight to fluctuate and whenever my weight hit a "wall" and stayed the same there was a problem with my diet "stunting" my bodies ability to regenerate muscle tissue or "grow" muscle.

I say my brother is 350 but in truth I don't know his exact weight, but I know he's a pretty damn big dude and somewhere in the 300-350lb range. It's funny that you say my posts are off base, because I feel the same about yours. I know from my personal experiences and my brother's nagging and calling me a "runt" and giving me all these tips on how to get bigger and gain mass over the years.... I'm not a fitness expert, and I wouldn't even say my brother is, but he didn't get that damned big by accident. If he tells me "this is how I gain muscle mass", I can see that he's about half the size of a barn so I give his experiences a little bit of weight. Whether you think he's right or wrong, he obviously did something right or he wouldn't be the size of a small truck. So if I have my brother, who I know is a damn big and strong dude, telling me one thing and some dude that claims to be a somewhat average sized dude not much bigger than myself tells me something different, i'm going with my bro. Sorry man.

All this is is rambling. I gave you exact details on exactly my diet, and routine, you not only ignored every flaw in your argument, you went into a bunch of bs, while stating that you have the world record in squat. Congrats I always wondered who the guy who could squat 1050lbs was, glad to meet you. the world record without a weight suite it like 1008, and the world record with one of those suites is 1220, by a guy who weighs about 350 lbs. Thanks for nothing, and not only did you take nutrition advice from a real person, and try to make a power lifting argument, but you don't know shit about what your talking about, and if your brother really trains, and knows what to do properly, show him this, and he will tell you what a dumbass you are.

LoL, dude like 1/2 of my team in school squated near 1k pounds or more... though it was on the leg press so maybe that changes the poundage some, I dunno. But that's what I did and wasn't even the best then (though I was closer to the top than I was at all other exercises), so dunno what you're smoking talking about world records..

And since you want to talk "on the record".... ". If I wanted to gain weight, I would add 2 pieces of fruit, 2 cups of rice, and 1 scoop of peanut butter with 3 of my daily shakes, and I would start to add lean mass at about 1-2 lbs of shredded muscle per month. Maybe I would also take 1-2 cardio sessions off a week as well." That is the biggest load of garbage i've seen, for one no one looking to add a specific ammount of weight in mass per month is just going to throw together extra calories in a few shakes at random. For another, penut butter is great for putting on wait, but it's one of the foods highest in fat content around. Which brings me to another gem of yours "What do 350 lb guys who want to be strong do? Pretty easy eat 6-8 meals a day 50 gram protein every meal, pound 1-2 cups of oatmeal for breakfast, lots of rice potatos, and if they are over 350lbs they obviously dont skimp on fats." No one wanting to add muscle mass is going to just add fats into their diet and hope for the best. Hell, my brother probably counts his fat intake more than I ever have, fat isn't something you just add nilly willy to your diet retard. Mostly everything you've said is half truth, mostly things that you hear people BSing about shooting hoops or something, most of it can be incorporated into specific diets and plans, but none of it is of dire importance to that diet or plan. Sure, you *can* add penut butter to a diet that's designed to help you gain mass, but it's hardly a central indredient so it would be the same as saying "simple i'll just eat 4 eggs in the morning". Sounds cute, but really means nothing.

Originally posted by fujicrow
LoL, dude like 1/2 of my team in school squated near 1k pounds or more... though it was on the leg press so maybe that changes the poundage some, I dunno. But that's what I did and wasn't even the best then (though I was closer to the top than I was at all other exercises), so dunno what you're smoking talking about world records..

And since you want to talk "on the record".... ". If I wanted to gain weight, I would add 2 pieces of fruit, 2 cups of rice, and 1 scoop of peanut butter with 3 of my daily shakes, and I would start to add lean mass at about 1-2 lbs of shredded muscle per month. Maybe I would also take 1-2 cardio sessions off a week as well." That is the biggest load of garbage i've seen, for one no one looking to add a specific ammount of weight in mass per month is just going to throw together extra calories in a few shakes at random. For another, penut butter is great for putting on wait, but it's one of the foods highest in fat content around. Which brings me to another gem of yours "What do 350 lb guys who want to be strong do? Pretty easy eat 6-8 meals a day 50 gram protein every meal, pound 1-2 cups of oatmeal for breakfast, lots of rice potatos, and if they are over 350lbs they obviously dont skimp on fats." No one wanting to add muscle mass is going to just add fats into their diet and hope for the best. Hell, my brother probably counts his fat intake more than I ever have, fat isn't something you just add nilly willy to your diet retard. Mostly everything you've said is half truth, mostly things that you hear people BSing about shooting hoops or something, most of it can be incorporated into specific diets and plans, but none of it is of dire importance to that diet or plan. Sure, you *can* add penut butter to a diet that's designed to help you gain mass, but it's hardly a central indredient so it would be the same as saying "simple i'll just eat 4 eggs in the morning". Sounds cute, but really means nothing.

Wrong wrong wrong. I would add 2 pieces of fruit, 2 cups of rice, throughout the entire day, and then 1-3 scoops of natural peanut butter, not the jiffy shit that invalids like you think of. Natural peanut butter is so rich in muscle building amino acids that it is an absolute necessity. At no point was that random. I would throw the 2 scoops of peanut butter in my nightly shake to slow the digestion of protein to have a more sustained delivery to my muscles. 190 calories, and would probably add 2 scoops 190 calories to my mid morning shake as well. the 2 apples = 190 caloires, and the rice = 400. So that is 1000 bonus calories a day, and depending on how my body adjusted I would go up and down from there. As far as 1000 lb squat, Lmfao at you not knowing throwing weight on your back and going below parallel is a squat. You are referring to a leg press. Nothing I Have said is half truth in any measure. The reduction of cardio is too ensure optimal muscle gains, because a bodybuilders biggest fear is burning off his hard earned muscle. And a 350 lb guy who is as strong as you say, as long as there is 50 gram of protein and 100 gram of carb, he can eat "ANYTHING" and get strong, everything after the 50/100 ratio per meal is just added shit. So great maybe he adds fish oil, and omega 3's wherever he can, but I know 1st hand power lifters can eat any kind of junk food, because it is all excessive. And they are not body builders, they are power lifters. AKA Thee most undesireable physique known to man.

I only wish someone out there was a body builder, or a avid fitness buff. Because nothing you say is correct, and if anyone knew how this works they would know how big of a dumbass you are. Fujicrows entire post above is complete garbage, but I hope I Was able to break it down for you

And it's also rich in fat, and 1-3 scoops could be anything from a couple teaspoons to a couple cups full. That's the random part of it, "scoop" isn't a measurement, and no one who is changing their diet as precise as you're trying to make it seem guesstimates. Also you said you'd add "fruit", which is vague and random consider all fruit has different values. And you say rice without specifying, there are many types of rice which also have much varying values.

I've said all along i'm not huge into weightlifting, I do know that the basic muscle movements are similar to squat and leg press so, as someone who doesn't spend their life in a gym, the two blend together in my vocabulary. And you're confusing bodybuilding and powerlifting, the two really don't have much in common. You need a different diet and workout routine for both. And you're also still oversimplifying things. Powerlifters need to take in as many calories as they can get down, so yes a food like penut butter that has a high calorie content per volume could be used. There are even power lifters that couldn't give a shit about overall body conditioning and don't pay attention to fat, sugars ect. And that's where your retarded diet suggestions come in and could be used as they are, though in that case your ingredients could be substituted for just about anything, as the sheer volume of what that powerlifter eats per day takes care of the nutrients needed. But there are also powerlifters, like my brother, who laboriously create a diet that both maximizes their bodies ability to gain muscle mass (as close as they can come to it at any rate) and limits the side effects of the normal powerlifting eatathon such as high blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugars, liver enzymes ect. In these cases, and I already pointed out that this was the case with my brother as i've stated that he's a health nut that counts every calorie, you cannot simply add in food off the top of your head and have it all come out even. If the diet needs to be changed, the ENTIRE diet needs to be changed to accomodate the changes that are needed. But you seem to be confusing powerlifters to bodybuilders and still don't completely have a full grasp on what you're talking about. Even moreso than the most finiky powerlifter, a bodybuilder will count and measure every calorie and nutritional value, again it would take a major stroke of luck for those "measurments" of yours to have come out even to the energy being burned with your workout routine. And if they don't come out dead even, they're not going to be used by a bodybuilder. So again, if you did decide to become serious about lifting for whatever cause, you would need to be more accurate than a "scoop" here and 250ish calories there.

D Pride, 50 grams of protein is nowhere near enough to successfully get you anything.

I am 17 years old, weigh 185 and i consume around 200 g protein a day. 50g protein for someone weighing 350 sounds useless.

And 1000 on the leg press is nice, i dont like to max out often, but ive done 750 6 times on leg press, but my squat is only 350... so its not something to even be compared, in my vocab at least.

Just throwing in my 2 cents here, but Bunghole Liquors> NBA Jam. Your welcome

Originally posted by BlakeMD39
D Pride, 50 grams of protein is nowhere near enough to successfully get you anything.

I am 17 years old, weigh 185 and i consume around 200 g protein a day. 50g protein for someone weighing 350 sounds useless.

50 gram per meal 8 x per day....

Yea I know, but I also call pull ups push ups and push ups pull ups. I also call military press shoulder press, even though they're two different exercises in case dpride wants to make fun of me for not knowing the difference. I know the differences between the exercises I just confuse names alot, it's not limited to exercises. It's probably ADD or something lol.

Originally posted by fujicrow
And it's also rich in fat, and 1-3 scoops could be anything from a couple teaspoons to a couple cups full. That's the random part of it, "scoop" isn't a measurement, and no one who is changing their diet as precise as you're trying to make it seem guesstimates. Also you said you'd add "fruit", which is vague and random consider all fruit has different values. And you say rice without specifying, there are many types of rice which also have much varying values.

I've said all along i'm not huge into weightlifting, I do know that the basic muscle movements are similar to squat and leg press so, as someone who doesn't spend their life in a gym, the two blend together in my vocabulary. And you're confusing bodybuilding and powerlifting, the two really don't have much in common. You need a different diet and workout routine for both. And you're also still oversimplifying things. Powerlifters need to take in as many calories as they can get down, so yes a food like penut butter that has a high calorie content per volume could be used. There are even power lifters that couldn't give a shit about overall body conditioning and don't pay attention to fat, sugars ect. And that's where your retarded diet suggestions come in and could be used as they are, though in that case your ingredients could be substituted for just about anything, as the sheer volume of what that powerlifter eats per day takes care of the nutrients needed. But there are also powerlifters, like my brother, who laboriously create a diet that both maximizes their bodies ability to gain muscle mass (as close as they can come to it at any rate) and limits the side effects of the normal powerlifting eatathon such as high blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugars, liver enzymes ect. In these cases, and I already pointed out that this was the case with my brother as i've stated that he's a health nut that counts every calorie, you cannot simply add in food off the top of your head and have it all come out even. If the diet needs to be changed, the ENTIRE diet needs to be changed to accomodate the changes that are needed. But you seem to be confusing powerlifters to bodybuilders and still don't completely have a full grasp on what you're talking about. Even moreso than the most finiky powerlifter, a bodybuilder will count and measure every calorie and nutritional value, again it would take a major stroke of luck for those "measurments" of yours to have come out even to the energy being burned with your workout routine. And if they don't come out dead even, they're not going to be used by a bodybuilder. So again, if you did decide to become serious about lifting for whatever cause, you would need to be more accurate than a "scoop" here and 250ish calories there.

The way you were acting, I assumed you " thought" you knew everything there was to know, so I just typed how I would to someone who has been living the fitness lifestyle for 10+ years, clearly we are not on the same page on any aspect of the healthy living spectrum, to me it is a lifestyle, to you well w/e. You said Salads, and protein shakes are not a commonly used thing. That is where you were wrong, then you start talking about power lifting, and how to get "strong" ? W/e I would never want to power lift, every ounce of weight I put on is for cosmetic purposes only, and somewhere in your argument you started bringing this down a path it was never meant to go. The entire point of the this argument got off pace, when you wanted to be sly and say salads and shakes don't mix, when all I Was trying to do was say chubby faced, big belly, dudes like DarkBlack who have to grow beards to make there fat round face not look so round , don't know what either of those things are, and they could mix in a salad or a protein shake and they would maybe see there you know what when they pee! Shoes of course? right?

We're not on the same spectrum because healthy living for you is on the outside first where as for me it's what's under the hood. If you truly do know anything about health and fitness you know the difference between the two outlooks and therein lies the breakdown in communication. We both refer to "health" or "fitness", but for every term used we have differing definitions for them. I wasn't trying to be sly, rather simply pointing out the difference between cosmetic and health. I believe the first thing mentioned was that I thought it odd that you mention healthy eating seemingly to imply dieting and consuming protein shakes in the same breath, and it still seems odd to me. In my experience i've only seen people drinking protein shakes as part of a diet geared towards gaining muscle mass. You had a different experience of using it as part of diets meant to keep slim, and while I still don't agree that it's healthy to use supplimental shakes as meal replacements, I can understand that some people see health from the outside in and in this light you could argue it's health. I disagree with that thinking on a base level, but arguing the point is futile as neither side is likely to relent.

The reason I made comment of it is it's become a trend with you. You dogged someone for being underweight and scrawny and I more or less let it go. Then I see here that you're making fun of someone else for being overweight inbetween posting about how other posters are envious of your picture and a pattern seems to be developing. And at the center of that pattern was you acting like a douche, maybe what I was seeing was the tail end of bickering that took place elsewhere and the douche-baggery was comming from all sides and it just happened that most of your antics took place on this forum so it made a worse impression than it would've had the whole scene been available, but from the angle I had to view it... well you get the point.