Warrior General Games

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by foshizzel17

Does anybody have a build with lots of blocking?(30-40 i would consider A LOT)

Ive always heard that Blocking helps to "shed blks"

I think its Bullsht thou

Personally, I am banking on blocking to work off strength. I am trying to have my DE to have 70+ str and 50+ blk. I have to say, as I up the str, blk, and Heavy Weight I noticed my DE shedding a lot more blocks. But I'm not going to make judgments until I have a longer period of standard deviation.


It does with most o-lines and i have a Fb that regularly leads the pancakes (I haven't done anything to blocking)

Originally posted by G33
Originally posted by BiggerBlue

hmm... 31, 29, 23... and we're "convince" it doesn't work.

I wonder how we would feel when someone posts: "I have 23 agility and it doesn't make a difference to my DE"


I never said I thought it didn't work. If I thought that, my DE would have 16.21 blocking, the minimum allowed for his level. There just aren't any good training pairs for blocking left for my DE, since his training values for strength and agility are at 6% and 4%, respectively. The only time he ever trains blocking is when he's searching for AEQ.

I hear you. I wish Bort would lighten up on the combo trainings. For DE the only thing worth training with blocking is strength, but like you said at a high level it just isn't worth it.

In any case, I'm testing it out anyway just for fun. Not much else to do for a DE builder like me with all these nerfs.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by G33

Originally posted by BiggerBlue


hmm... 31, 29, 23... and we're "convince" it doesn't work.

I wonder how we would feel when someone posts: "I have 23 agility and it doesn't make a difference to my DE"


I never said I thought it didn't work. If I thought that, my DE would have 16.21 blocking, the minimum allowed for his level. There just aren't any good training pairs for blocking left for my DE, since his training values for strength and agility are at 6% and 4%, respectively. The only time he ever trains blocking is when he's searching for AEQ.

I hear you. I wish Bort would lighten up on the combo trainings. For DE the only thing worth training with blocking is strength, but like you said at a high level it just isn't worth it.

In any case, I'm testing it out anyway just for fun. Not much else to do for a DE builder like me with all these nerfs.


What DE are you testing it on and are you still trying to go with 70+ strength and 50+ blocking.

Zebadiah Machen - yes, not there yet.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Zebadiah Machen - yes, not there yet.


What are you at?

Originally posted by dagwood13
Originally posted by BiggerBlue


Zebadiah Machen - yes, not there yet.


What are you at?

60-28

I can save you guys the trouble...blocking does not do much...

I know this DE has ~60 blocking:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=88313

And is otherwise well rounded...has not done much the past two seasons. I am sure it helps shedding blocks a bit but what does that matter as shedding a block rarely actually gets you past the o-linemen...they just reengage the block. Not saying this player is bad...actually he i a good d-linemen...just do not see blocking playing much role in the d-line.

This players build was open a few seasons ago...and his blocking was 50+ then...

Originally posted by PsychoMan001
what are people talking about when they've "heard that blocking helps shed blocks" who said this? anyone have an open build that can prove it works? links please ...

I dont know where to find it again but it was a post by Bort in the early days of GLB (season 1-2). He said that blocking stat does helps defensive players shed blocks although its a relatively small effect.

Also sparked a discussion on if tackling helps break tackles... but never got an answer on that one.

The link to where DD said blocking helps with shedding blocks is at the top of every player's skill points page.

Bort has probably said it a few times, but I know he recently said that DD's old skill descriptions page is still accurate otherwise it wouldn't be an official FAQ.

As to links to open builds, this is something that would have to be done on the testing server to provide definitive proof. Create two DTs identical to each other with the exception of blocking. Have one with whatever base blocking would be at level 50 if you never invested a single SP in it. Someone in here threw out 16 or 18, I think. The other DT would have ~49 blocking, just to have a wide enough gap between the two. Run a few games swapping them out every other play and see who has better stats. Might not be a perfect indicator of shed block ability alone, but some data is better than none.

If they did run this test, then I'd rather see a DT with 20 blocking versus a DT with 100 blocking. Tweak the remaining attributes so that the 20 blocking DT averages 5 sacks a game over a 5 game span. That way, if blocking works well, the 100 blocking DT should see a huge increase in pressure.

A 80 point difference in blocking should give a definitive answer as to how effective blocking is, and starting with a five sack average for the inferior build is better to show improvement. If extremely high blocking combined with solid base attributes doubles the amount of sacks, 5->10 sacks is a much better indicator, rather than 1->2. Never mind the fact that no one will ever reach 100 blocking with decent supporting attributes. The point of the test would be to simply determine if it does something or not.

Originally posted by G33
If they did run this test, then I'd rather see a DT with 20 blocking versus a DT with 100 blocking. Tweak the remaining attributes so that the 20 blocking DT averages 5 sacks a game over a 5 game span. That way, if blocking works well, the 100 blocking DT should see a huge increase in pressure.

A 80 point difference in blocking should give a definitive answer as to how effective blocking is, and starting with a five sack average for the inferior build is better to show improvement. If extremely high blocking combined with solid base attributes doubles the amount of sacks, 5->10 sacks is a much better indicator, rather than 1->2. Never mind the fact that no one will ever reach 100 blocking with decent supporting attributes. The point of the test would be to simply determine if it does something or not.

Anybody know a tester who would be wiling to do this and post there findings?

Originally posted by dagwood13
Originally posted by G33

If they did run this test, then I'd rather see a DT with 20 blocking versus a DT with 100 blocking. Tweak the remaining attributes so that the 20 blocking DT averages 5 sacks a game over a 5 game span. That way, if blocking works well, the 100 blocking DT should see a huge increase in pressure.

A 80 point difference in blocking should give a definitive answer as to how effective blocking is, and starting with a five sack average for the inferior build is better to show improvement. If extremely high blocking combined with solid base attributes doubles the amount of sacks, 5->10 sacks is a much better indicator, rather than 1->2. Never mind the fact that no one will ever reach 100 blocking with decent supporting attributes. The point of the test would be to simply determine if it does something or not.

Anybody know a tester who would be wiling to do this and post there findings?

Bort wouldn't allow a test like that.

I tested getting blocking up on a DT. Got it trained up to around 35. That DT also had over 110 agility, speed in the high 60's, shed block at 11, strength over 70, and vision in the low 50's.

He did jack and shit. I retired him.