Warrior General Games

I don't think i have a sucky build for either of my FS's.
ere's Hyper Thread: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1158405


Lvl 25 FS
Str: 14 (yea, I know it's low)
Spd: 79.2 (natural) 96.2 (w/ equp)
Agi: 57.92
Jmp: 13.92
Stm: 22.2
Vsn: 41.2 (working on this)
Conf: 18.92
Tkl: 21.2

Looks like a CB

CB would need more agility.

In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players.

Originally posted by Gargus
In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players.

This . . .

takling at fs is overrated

Originally posted by IIAMLEGEND
takling at fs is overrated

It can be.

Originally posted by Gargus
In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players.
This is untrue and rather ridiculous to believe. The FS is rarely, if ever, the fastest player on a team. Keep building crap FS's though.

Originally posted by Challenge Everything
Originally posted by Gargus

In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players.
This is untrue and rather ridiculous to believe. The FS is rarely, if ever, the fastest player on a team. Keep building crap FS's though.

IRL I'd predict CBs and/ or WRs. But it's really hard to say, especially in the NFL . . .

http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers

Originally posted by Challenge Everything
Originally posted by Gargus

In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players.
This is untrue and rather ridiculous to believe. The FS is rarely, if ever, the fastest player on a team. Keep building crap FS's though.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=34147 (USA AA #1)

vs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=102254 (SEA Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=85997 (SEA Pro)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=564738 (EE Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=145173 (SA Pro)

Confuzius said: "Some guys like talking without knowing"

Originally posted by RAPB
Originally posted by Challenge Everything
Originally posted by Gargus
In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players. This is untrue and rather ridiculous to believe. The FS is rarely, if ever, the fastest player on a team. Keep building crap FS's though.http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=34147 (USA AA #1)

vs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=102254 (SEA Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=85997 (SEA Pro)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=564738 (EE Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=145173 (SA Pro)
Your post makes no sense. hth

Originally posted by Challenge Everything
Originally posted by RAPB

Originally posted by Challenge Everything

Originally posted by Gargus

In general, the FS is the fastest player, and the CB's are the quickest players. This is untrue and rather ridiculous to believe. The FS is rarely, if ever, the fastest player on a team. Keep building crap FS's though.http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=34147 (USA AA #1)

vs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=102254 (SEA Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=85997 (SEA Pro)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=564738 (EE Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=145173 (SA Pro)
Your post makes no sense. hth

Made plenty of sense to me.

His point is that while you speak in a condescending manner to people who disagree with you, it seems like any available evidence would lead one to believe that you're completely wrong, and in fact some of the people disagreeing with you have built safeties who, in fact, seem to be much better than yours at the same level.

In my previous post I looked through the first four games of your safety's CPL career. He got torched in every way possible, and basically anyone rationally looking at those examples would have to conclude that your 85 speed was way, way too little--that's less than most good LBs at that level.

Most people would at least engage in rational debate, rather than basically say "you're wrong" without offering evidence anytime someone disagrees with them. If you actually think that a FS shouldn't be the fastest guy on the field, then at least build in argument--plainly "my guy did fine in CPL with 85 speed" isn't quite true.

Originally posted by SunshineMan89
His point is that while you speak in a condescending manner to people who disagree with you, it seems like any available evidence would lead one to believe that you're completely wrong, and in fact some of the people disagreeing with you have built safeties who, in fact, seem to be much better than yours at the same level.

In my previous post I looked through the first four games of your safety's CPL career. He got torched in every way possible, and basically anyone rationally looking at those examples would have to conclude that your 85 speed was way, way too little--that's less than most good LBs at that level.

Most people would at least engage in rational debate, rather than basically say "you're wrong" without offering evidence anytime someone disagrees with them. If you actually think that a FS shouldn't be the fastest guy on the field, then at least build in argument--plainly "my guy did fine in CPL with 85 speed" isn't quite true.

This is rather amusing. You are accusing me of bringing no evidence. There has been no empirical evidence to suggest safeties need 100+ speed. All the guy did was show safeties who have a higher ranking in that new ranking system. Are you really going to put great amounts of stock in that ranking system? He has not shown any builds or anything either. So, where is his evidence?

I also find it amusing you looked at my Canadian Pro play. Why? Did you look at the team's record and how they fared in that first Pro year? We ended up getting lowered to the AAA league... which then we came in second place and were bumped back up. And, for the upteenth time, stats mean very little when comparing players. Finally, you say Samus was torched yet offered no plays to show. Samus was last torched in season 3 or 4 and that was against one of Flames' teams before speed was nerfed.

In summary, safeties do not need 110+ speed to be effective. And, the FS position definitely does not need to be the fastest player on the team. I have been one of the least condescending individuals in this forum especially compared to the quoted individual. But, believe what you would like. I hate it when misinformation is quoted as fact and there is plenty in this forum, mostly regarding speed.

Originally posted by RAPB
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=102254 (SEA Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=85997 (SEA Pro)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=564738 (EE Pro)
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=145173 (SA Pro)
Again, to better clarify my above comments, I will explain below. I should give RAPB a chance to amend his post first though.

Julius Hibbert is a SS.

Tom Sizemore is a FS. He has fewer tackles, many more missed tackles last season, but more INT's. Not sure how those missed tackles hurt the team but this comparison is in no way indicative that his build is better than Samus.

Interceptor I is a SS.

LastMan Standing has one season in a Pro league, which was last year. The year before was an AAA league. Also, he had more missed tackles as well but more tackles. PD's were similar. I also find this player suspect because he has one of the games designers as a GM. The possible "testing conspiracy" which I will not attest to might be something to consider.

In conclusion, these four players of comparison have made no distinctive "proof" as to them being better. So, I don't know what else to say.

Originally posted by IIAMLEGEND
takling at fs is overrated

Not really. In the running game, a missed tackle has a high probability of giving the other team a TD. This doesn't mean that you need 60 tackling though.

I think the FS should be the fastest DB on the field. Most successful Pro-level CBs seem to have 90-95 speed, so an FS with 96+ speed is reasonably acceptable. How much speed is necessary over 100 is debatable.