Originally posted by HULK
(Cue DMP complaining that I'm not technically a dual threat :rolleyes
No need now!
DMP
(Cue DMP complaining that I'm not technically a dual threat :rolleyes
No need now!
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Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
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Originally posted by GameDCoder
Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
Good defenses are rare and if you throw passes to the HB in at the right time (not just whore them) then they are very effective
Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
Good defenses are rare and if you throw passes to the HB in at the right time (not just whore them) then they are very effective
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=485550
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=471603&pbp_id=18666846
I'm trying scat back right now have it at 10, and have noticed a pretty decent difference...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=471603&pbp_id=18666846
I'm trying scat back right now have it at 10, and have noticed a pretty decent difference...
Last edited Apr 28, 2009 16:39:53
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Originally posted by GameDCoder
Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
ok i get what your saying but regardless it still works
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=457579&pbp_id=19545676
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=457579&pbp_id=19550158
and we lost this game 69-10 btw
Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
ok i get what your saying but regardless it still works
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=457579&pbp_id=19545676
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=457579&pbp_id=19550158
and we lost this game 69-10 btw
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Originally posted by bigt05
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=485550
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=471603&pbp_id=18666846
I'm trying scat back right now have it at 10, and have noticed a pretty decent difference...
thats a screen play...i dont think screen are really that effective anymore
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=485550
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=471603&pbp_id=18666846
I'm trying scat back right now have it at 10, and have noticed a pretty decent difference...
thats a screen play...i dont think screen are really that effective anymore
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Originally posted by dman13
Originally posted by bigt05
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=485550
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=471603&pbp_id=18666846
I'm trying scat back right now have it at 10, and have noticed a pretty decent difference...
thats a screen play...i dont think screen are really that effective anymore
Screens are very effective tbh
Originally posted by bigt05
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=485550
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=471603&pbp_id=18666846
I'm trying scat back right now have it at 10, and have noticed a pretty decent difference...
thats a screen play...i dont think screen are really that effective anymore
Screens are very effective tbh
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As long as you dont over use the screen its pretty damn good...We throw it about 2-3 times a game and its usually good for a big gain if not a TD...
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I like to think of my back as a Dual Threat Back she isn't too bad.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=668047
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Originally posted by swimmaboy69
I like to think of my back as a Dual Threat Back she isn't too bad.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=668047
Im beggin for some stats and where to go. Here is my current build
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=858767
I like to think of my back as a Dual Threat Back she isn't too bad.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=668047
Im beggin for some stats and where to go. Here is my current build
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=858767
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AdamPA PM me if you want some advice on your build I need to know what your going for. My back is not your prototypical back that you will find most ppl building
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Originally posted by HULK
If you have the Scat Back VA, I highly recommend the HB Wheel route (its a HB Med pass). Usually you get covered by an LB who you blow by with the spd/agi boost from Scat Back.
This is the play where the HB goes down the middle right? That play + cover 2 = TD for my HB
If you have the Scat Back VA, I highly recommend the HB Wheel route (its a HB Med pass). Usually you get covered by an LB who you blow by with the spd/agi boost from Scat Back.
This is the play where the HB goes down the middle right? That play + cover 2 = TD for my HB
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Originally posted by AdamPA1006
Originally posted by swimmaboy69
I like to think of my back as a Dual Threat Back she isn't too bad.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=668047
Im beggin for some stats and where to go. Here is my current build
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=858767
I would bring the big 2 (Speed and Agility) to the 68 cap asap while training Confidence + Catching. I would stop training catching at 40. 40 should be more than enough, I kept a record of where my catching was in season 7 and 8.
Season 7 with 35 catching: 102 rec and 9 drops
Season 8 with 40 catching: 107 rec and 2 drops
I know 7 less drops may not seem much but, 1 drop could cost you the game.
Originally posted by swimmaboy69
I like to think of my back as a Dual Threat Back she isn't too bad.... http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=668047
Im beggin for some stats and where to go. Here is my current build
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=858767
I would bring the big 2 (Speed and Agility) to the 68 cap asap while training Confidence + Catching. I would stop training catching at 40. 40 should be more than enough, I kept a record of where my catching was in season 7 and 8.
Season 7 with 35 catching: 102 rec and 9 drops
Season 8 with 40 catching: 107 rec and 2 drops
I know 7 less drops may not seem much but, 1 drop could cost you the game.
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Originally posted by GameDCoder
Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
My HB has been playing against the elite teams in SA Pro, and he's been doing pretty well. It comes down to the OC calling plays that give your HB the best chance to succeed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=39804
Originally posted by dman13
ok i know it takes a while to make a legit Dual Threat HB, but i think i have it down, and my OC has been utilizing it to the max.
Example 1: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=501873&pbp_id=3755549
The defense is playing a regular nickle D. we go twins to the weak side causing a shift in the defense. the TE does a quick slant causing the LOLB to take the TE leaving my HB wide open. now at this point its basically a foot race between my lvl. 39 HB and the lvl. 36 FS and lvl. 36 CB.
Example 2: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2915195
here is another on except there are 5 CBs and the inside one is man on the TE while the MLB blitzes leaving my HB open again.
Example 3 http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=552225&pbp_id=2922867
we acually ran this play twice, both for TDs. just a normal nickle defense with only a MLB, but this time the LB drops back inot coverage and he takes the TE while my HB going at full speed while the CB has to gain momentum and catch up, but he doesnt and my HB blows by him.
i'll try and find defensive formations where this doesnt work and i'll keep you guys posted
No offense intended to you or your HB at all, but in the examples you listed you were taking good advantage of very bad defenses.
In the first two examples they are blitzing the guy that is supposed to be covering you, which leaves you wide open, and in the third example they are trying to cover you with a CB that has all the speed and agi of a lineman, and should honestly be retired. I'm glad your OC took advantage there, as that was just like printing money and I would assume he is kicking himself for not doing more of it that game.
Don't get me wrong, as an OC I've used HBs in this way quite a bit myself, and personally have an elusive back with over 800 yards receiving for last season, so I know how effective it can be. However, good defenses with decent players can stop this stuff. In most cases it works as well as it does because of defenses blitzing the guy that should cover the HB.
My HB has been playing against the elite teams in SA Pro, and he's been doing pretty well. It comes down to the OC calling plays that give your HB the best chance to succeed.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=39804
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