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NotRippedYet
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Originally posted by grinless
Is fearsome any good for a blitzing LB ?


Some think so. I'm of the belief that hurries are about as worthless as it gets.
 
CapnEnnui
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Just FYI guys, any blitzing OLB not taking Pass Rusher is going to be in for a hell of a season... cause lots of OTs are going to stock up on Pass Blocker/Protect or whatever it's called.

Blitzing looks weak, again, this season.
 
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My guy has +10 pass rusher, still waiting for SOMEONE to say whether or not jump the snap works.
 
Ladyzman
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Streaky here i come!
 
kentrol72
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Originally posted by NotRippedYet
Brick Wall and Helmet crash for MLB (the having higher strength requirement was removed making it hugely more useful).

Probably brick wall and jackhammer for LOLB.

ROLB depends on how they use you.


I believe Jackhammer helped with my LOLB's PDs last season so I'll be keeping that. Toss up over brickwall and helmet crash. I wish there were more endzone to endzone, downs 1-4 VAs worth wild
 
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For MLB, Natural Leader could be bigtime. Brickwall works well even without maxing it. Intimidation is good if you have a high AoI. Helmet Crash if your strength is 60. Hell, Textbook Tackler is only nerfed by half. If you have tackling second softcapped (and you should as a MLB) then that's about 4.5 bonus.... not as good as before but not bad either.
 
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Not a single mention of Sure Tackler yet... no one likes this as an option for a MLB?
 
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Originally posted by oban14
My guy has +10 pass rusher, still waiting for SOMEONE to say whether or not jump the snap works.


what do you mean "works"? It does what it says it does. Here's how I look at it. My DT on average starts moving on the 3rd tick after the ball is snapped. I figure since that's 3 checks, a 30% bonus will move his average up to the 2nd tick. So he'd start attacking 1 tick sooner on pass plays. My LB otoh recognizes the snap earlier, but he often doesn't move until after that, in those cases JTS wouldn't help...basically it would only help on blitzes. When he's getting off on the second check already, a 30% bonus is probably only going to get him moving on the first tick about a third of the time, or maybe half. So I'm not sure how big of a help that would be.
 
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Originally posted by Gabrosin
Not a single mention of Sure Tackler yet... no one likes this as an option for a MLB?


There's a thread in the main forums on the Sure hands ability which has the same basic effect of sure tackler. Bottom line is, unless you suck it's pretty much rubbish, at least IMO.

Edit: Here's the link and some data:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2517251

Last season my MLB was 62 tkls with 6 misses, or 91.18% with sure tackler that % would increase to 97.21%, which sounds pretty good, until you realize that means only 3-4 more made tackles over the course of the entire season.

So yeah, it'll reduce the number of missed tackles, but you really need to decide if missing a handful of tackles is worth the 15 VA points which is two seasons worth of points.
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bigfatguy64
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Originally posted by NotRippedYet
Originally posted by Gabrosin

Not a single mention of Sure Tackler yet... no one likes this as an option for a MLB?


There's a thread in the main forums on the Sure hands ability which has the same basic effect of sure tackler. Bottom line is, unless you suck it's pretty much rubbish, at least IMO.

Edit: Here's the link and some data:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2517251

Last season my MLB was 62 tkls with 6 misses, or 91.18% with sure tackler that % would increase to 97.21%, which sounds pretty good, until you realize that means only 3-4 more made tackles over the course of the entire season.

So yeah, it'll reduce the number of missed tackles, but you really need to decide if missing a handful of tackles is worth the 15 VA points which is two seasons worth of points.


gives you this possiblity of using power tackler and not really missing any more tackles though
 
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Originally posted by Darren McFadden
Originally posted by oban14

My guy has +10 pass rusher, still waiting for SOMEONE to say whether or not jump the snap works.


what do you mean "works"? It does what it says it does. Here's how I look at it. My DT on average starts moving on the 3rd tick after the ball is snapped.


This is the LB forum. He is alluding to the fact that JTS requires one to be coming "off the line" and thus implies it doesn't work for LBs who technically aren't on the defensive line.

 
Biermacht
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Originally posted by bigfatguy64

gives you this possiblity of using power tackler and not really missing any more tackles though


Considering it was broken last season, I'd need to see some proof of that before dropping points in it.
 
sallori
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With 65 Tackling, I'm pretty confident a MLB could skip Sure tackler and Take Brick Wall or Power Tackler instead...
 
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Has anyone noticed Brick Wall doing anything worthy of significant VA points?
 
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I'm maxing out Jack Hammer and Ball Hawk for my LOLB. I think this combo will be awesome!
 
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