Goal Line Blitz - American Football MMORPG

tmarze
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Apr 4, 2009 13:30:00

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sort of like this.If the LBer is not the right type of LBer or lacks technique in taking down PBs. Watch Earl Campbell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWKtv4gxuvQ&feature=PlayList&p=F5D1A9FD18BE04C7&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=39

check the 1.22 mark.

Last edited Apr 4, 2009 13:34:02

tmarze
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Apr 4, 2009 13:31:44

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Originally posted by OttawaShane
Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23

It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

This plus what Bones said - LBs not stepping aggressively into an obvious point of attack right in front of them = Brutal.

Plus, hands up anyone who thinks it makes sense that a PB should be able to break two or three tackles using different techniques all in the same tick...or that consecutive broken tackles within a couple of seconds shouldn't make it really easy to bring him down, due to stamina, balance, and other issues?

Its size and/or technique never try to tackle a PB up high if you can't match strength for strength.

Granted86
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Apr 4, 2009 13:33:51

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Originally posted by tmarze
Originally posted by OttawaShane

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23

It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

This plus what Bones said - LBs not stepping aggressively into an obvious point of attack right in front of them = Brutal.

Plus, hands up anyone who thinks it makes sense that a PB should be able to break two or three tackles using different techniques all in the same tick...or that consecutive broken tackles within a couple of seconds shouldn't make it really easy to bring him down, due to stamina, balance, and other issues?

Its size and/or technique never try to tackle a PB up high if you can't match strength for strength.

i wish the defense had the option to tackle low ... then PBs wouldnt break so many tackles

tmarze
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Apr 4, 2009 13:35:29

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Originally posted by Granted86
Originally posted by tmarze

Originally posted by OttawaShane

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23

It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

This plus what Bones said - LBs not stepping aggressively into an obvious point of attack right in front of them = Brutal.

Plus, hands up anyone who thinks it makes sense that a PB should be able to break two or three tackles using different techniques all in the same tick...or that consecutive broken tackles within a couple of seconds shouldn't make it really easy to bring him down, due to stamina, balance, and other issues?

Its size and/or technique never try to tackle a PB up high if you can't match strength for strength.

i wish the defense had the option to tackle low ... then PBs wouldnt break so many tackles

shouldn't that be in the tackling attribute ? the technique,have to have the technique if the defenseman lacks in the strength department.

Granted86
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Apr 4, 2009 13:37:23

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Originally posted by tmarze
Originally posted by Granted86

Originally posted by tmarze

Originally posted by OttawaShane

Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23

It is also an energy problem. No runningback should be effective past 25-30 carries. You can fix o-line and defensive builds, but neither of those will change the fact that people have ran their powerbacks 50+ times in games with almost no dropoff.

This plus what Bones said - LBs not stepping aggressively into an obvious point of attack right in front of them = Brutal.

Plus, hands up anyone who thinks it makes sense that a PB should be able to break two or three tackles using different techniques all in the same tick...or that consecutive broken tackles within a couple of seconds shouldn't make it really easy to bring him down, due to stamina, balance, and other issues?

Its size and/or technique never try to tackle a PB up high if you can't match strength for strength.

i wish the defense had the option to tackle low ... then PBs wouldnt break so many tackles

shouldn't that be in the tackling attribute ? the technique,have to have the technique if the defenseman lacks in the strength department.

tackling is how efficient of a tackler you are, but the ability to choose HOW to tackle a given player is an option the defense does NOT have

BadgerPhil
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Apr 4, 2009 13:42:23

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Wrap-up is essentially hitting low and 'wrapping up'. Though then you run the risk of higher drag and more yards giving up.

Last edited Apr 4, 2009 13:43:10

Voltron
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Apr 4, 2009 13:46:07

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Originally posted by tmarze
IMO Hope PBs don't get nerfed,it gives us something to work towards.
Just add the leading receivers for QBs.
For many seasons speed defenses were enough,now the dawn of the PB has arrived speed alone for defenses wont be enough.
For so many seasons speed was the base for nearly every defense,But what defeats speed when going head on ?Power/strength.
IMO I'ts not the powerbacks it's the builds in the interior defense.

Folks recall the Dungys Bucs and the tamp 2 defense used by Dungy's Bucs ?
That defense worked great against speedy and west coast style of offenses,due to the speed of the Bucs defense.
Now when the Bucs faced teams with power running games like at the time the Chiefs and the Steelers Tampa 2 didn't work.
I see it like that in GLB everyone went with Tampa 2 style defense,which opened the door to the PBs,and powerful OLs.
Firm believer builds can overcome.

Yep, cause defensive players should have to third cap strength, agility, tackling, speed, vision to be effective and get SAs to 7+ to be any good.

BadgerPhil
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Apr 4, 2009 13:51:49

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Deathblade
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Apr 4, 2009 13:53:24

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Originally posted by Voltron
Yep, cause defensive players should have to third cap strength, agility, tackling, speed, vision to be effective and get SAs to 7+ to be any good.

Don't forget, any attribute that isn't third capped needs to be at atleast 50.

Ronnie Brown 23
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Apr 4, 2009 13:54:17

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Originally posted by Voltron
Originally posted by tmarze

IMO Hope PBs don't get nerfed,it gives us something to work towards.
Just add the leading receivers for QBs.
For many seasons speed defenses were enough,now the dawn of the PB has arrived speed alone for defenses wont be enough.
For so many seasons speed was the base for nearly every defense,But what defeats speed when going head on ?Power/strength.
IMO I'ts not the powerbacks it's the builds in the interior defense.

Folks recall the Dungys Bucs and the tamp 2 defense used by Dungy's Bucs ?
That defense worked great against speedy and west coast style of offenses,due to the speed of the Bucs defense.
Now when the Bucs faced teams with power running games like at the time the Chiefs and the Steelers Tampa 2 didn't work.
I see it like that in GLB everyone went with Tampa 2 style defense,which opened the door to the PBs,and powerful OLs.
Firm believer builds can overcome.

Yep, cause defensive players should have to third cap strength, agility, tackling, speed, vision to be effective and get SAs to 7+ to be any good.

Stamina soon as well

tmarze
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Apr 4, 2009 13:58:17

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Lbers/MLB,and ILBers can't be built like a CB and be effective in taking on PBs.
MLB,ILBers are meant to be quicker versions of the Dlinemen ?

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Ronnie Brown 23
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Apr 4, 2009 13:59:35

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Originally posted by tmarze
Lbers/MLB,and ILBers can't be built like a CB and be effective in taking on PBs,meant to be quicker versions of the Dlinemen ?

TEs are built like WRs, so LBs have to be built like CBs.

tmarze
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Apr 4, 2009 14:00:33

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Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
Originally posted by tmarze

Lbers/MLB,and ILBers can't be built like a CB and be effective in taking on PBs,meant to be quicker versions of the Dlinemen ?

TEs are built like WRs, so LBs have to be built like CBs.

which hinders MLBs,and ILBs in being able to take down PBs ?

Deathblade
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Apr 4, 2009 14:00:45

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Originally posted by Ronnie Brown 23
Originally posted by tmarze

Lbers/MLB,and ILBers can't be built like a CB and be effective in taking on PBs,meant to be quicker versions of the Dlinemen ?

TEs are built like WRs, so LBs have to be built like CBs.

Except when offenses send in their TE built like a Center, and the defense remains clueless.

n:iceman:16
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Apr 4, 2009 14:06:57

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Nerfs need nerfing

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