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Underdawg08
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Originally posted by nottom
How'd that power tackling work for you in the playoffs?


Well, truthfully, it didn't matter. We lost to the Durban Donkey's 68-6 in the regular season where he missed 6 tackles the last time we played.They are a real power house of the division. They have a power back and ran a lot.
I could have set to wrap up,which I almost did, but I figured what the hell we will lose anyway. The chance to force fumbles far outweighed the fact that he would miss tackles. We were really just trying to do anything to win.

I am not saying my guy isn't a handicapped tackler. My guy missed 10% of his tackles last season. He also caused 10 fumbles. He plays on power tackling every game. He only has 44 tackling and 69 str. I could easily, easily get my tackling up to 54ish at boost if I felt a need. I just don't right now.

The only thing I want to point out is; I don't want people to be too fast to jump the gun on this power back situation. There is obviously going to be a nerf on them in the off season. I would hate for some poor guy out there to boost at the start of next season, dump 15 in tackling to find out power backs got a nerf and you don't need but about capped tackling as long as you have good str.

Tackling is good. I am not denying this. Tackling doesn't do much else but help you tackle. It isn't worth it to me to get tackling a full cap over str. Str does so much more. Maybe you will be a handicapped tackler against power backs. But the possibilities of making plays on the defense can't be ignored. And at the cost of missing 10 % of my tackles I will take the chance.
Last edited Apr 3, 2009 10:45:36
 
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I don't think Bort will nerf powerbacks. I am starting to feel like I have a pretty good understanding of the broken tackle situation though, and I feel like the tackling attribute is pretty valuable insofar as not having your tackles broken. I'm also starting to see the light on some of the SAs, although I'm not entirely convinced.
 
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Blamo

Originally posted by UnderDogs


It's all good. Successful is cool and all. I want to dominate. I understand your point of view completely. But there is no sense getting pissy about tackling. Like I said MY S.S. only has 44 tackling and I am perfectly happy with him. He plays on power tackling every game. YES. every single game.


You're the one telling me I'm wrong and that's why nobody listens to me... When it turns out that people are listening to me, and that I'm probably right. Furthermore, your player isn't dominant. Your player is also successful, but he is also more flawed than my player. I play and do well against many pro caliber teams on a team that is currently 19-0 in EEAAA... and your player hasn't really seemed like a difference maker even in Africa AAA, at least not against the best teams. I will still say that he is successful and a good player, but to try and put yourself on some pedestal because of your accomplishments on a meh team in Africa AAA is silly.


lol you're in EEAAA and insulting other leagues? It's widely known that EEAAA is pretty bad too.



Check the scrims I posted... Again, my player doesn't play scrubs. And EEAAA is a much, much better than AAAA

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Last season you had 46 tackles and 3 tackle for losses. Wow, you are awesome! you missed 5% of your tackles, in which I am sure you play on wrap up. your guy is not very successful even. I think he has way too much tackling. No sacks, No hurries. And you're talking about my guy being MEH? Your linebacker has been meh, his whole career. he will probably continue to be meh. Until you retire him. Here's to tackling folks! *raises glass*



http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=511505&playoffs=0 STR? plays on power tackling every game.

or tackling? http://goallineblitz.com/game/full_player_stats.pl?player_id=131569&playoffs=0 probably plays on wrap up every game.

I will let the general public decide from this. good day Blamo.


I mostly play on normal, tbh. Wrap up against the teams that really worry me, just because I'm not a fool and would rather help my team win than miss a bunch of tackles (especially at the SS position...), and the low tackles has to do more with the defense we play and the fact that I"m in coverage a lot more than any deficiency with my build. Furthermore, I'm on a team that doesn't need a player to rack up 100 tackles a season. We're pretty balanced. We have two players above 70 tackles all season. And considering I'll probably be top 3 or 4 for tackles on the team in the postseason (yeah... we're still playing playoff games), I think that's a pretty good indicator of how good my player is.


With that said, he's definitely flawed. Season 1 player FTL. Good thing my other LBs are turning into dominant forces
 
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Originally posted by Blamo
I mostly play on normal, tbh. Wrap up against the teams that really worry me, just because I'm not a fool and would rather help my team win than miss a bunch of tackles (especially at the SS position...), and the low tackles has to do more with the defense we play and the fact that I"m in coverage a lot more than any deficiency with my build. Furthermore, I'm on a team that doesn't need a player to rack up 100 tackles a season. We're pretty balanced. We have two players above 70 tackles all season. And considering I'll probably be top 3 or 4 for tackles on the team in the postseason (yeah... we're still playing playoff games), I think that's a pretty good indicator of how good my player is.


With that said, he's definitely flawed. Season 1 player FTL. Good thing my other LBs are turning into dominant forces


Yeah you got me I am a fool. last season in AA we won a championship. How foolish of me.
And hey if you have the time. Look over his last season playoff games. He wouldn't have helped his team so much in winning a championship with more tackling.
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by Blamo

I mostly play on normal, tbh. Wrap up against the teams that really worry me, just because I'm not a fool and would rather help my team win than miss a bunch of tackles (especially at the SS position...), and the low tackles has to do more with the defense we play and the fact that I"m in coverage a lot more than any deficiency with my build. Furthermore, I'm on a team that doesn't need a player to rack up 100 tackles a season. We're pretty balanced. We have two players above 70 tackles all season. And considering I'll probably be top 3 or 4 for tackles on the team in the postseason (yeah... we're still playing playoff games), I think that's a pretty good indicator of how good my player is.


With that said, he's definitely flawed. Season 1 player FTL. Good thing my other LBs are turning into dominant forces


Yeah you got me I am a fool. last season in AA we won a championship. How foolish of me.
And hey if you have the time. Look over his last season playoff games. He wouldn't have helped his team so much in winning a championship with more tackling.


Well if we're going by championships, my LB has championships at AA in season 6, and now AAA in season 8... And since EE is an older league than Africa, it also means that the levels are generally higher.

And while your guy did have an awesome playoff run in season 7... The reason they were so impressive had nothing to do with your strength =/ Your guys INTs were very impressive, but that doesn't really have much of anything to do with your strength =/ And before the AAA level, powerbacks aren't that big of a concern imo. So I still maintain that, as good as your player may be... he'd be better off with more tackling, and probably playing on balanced. It's not like you force a lot of fumbles in meaningful games... Of the 10 you forced last season, only two came in games that were decided by less than 20 points =/



And even then, this is a completely irrelevant argument, and you're just crusading for your own players worth. I'm not even talking about safeties. Did I make this thread in the safety forum too? No. No I did not. And there is a difference.
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Originally posted by Blamo
Originally posted by UnderDogs

Originally posted by Blamo


Originally posted by UnderDogs



It's all good. Successful is cool and all. I want to dominate. I understand your point of view completely. But there is no sense getting pissy about tackling. Like I said MY S.S. only has 44 tackling and I am perfectly happy with him. He plays on power tackling every game. YES. every single game.


You're the one telling me I'm wrong and that's why nobody listens to me... When it turns out that people are listening to me, and that I'm probably right. Furthermore, your player isn't dominant. Your player is also successful, but he is also more flawed than my player. I play and do well against many pro caliber teams on a team that is currently 19-0 in EEAAA... and your player hasn't really seemed like a difference maker even in Africa AAA, at least not against the best teams. I will still say that he is successful and a good player, but to try and put yourself on some pedestal because of your accomplishments on a meh team in Africa AAA is silly.


lol you're in EEAAA and insulting other leagues? It's widely known that EEAAA is pretty bad too.



Check the scrims I posted... Again, my player doesn't play scrubs. And EEAAA is a much, much better than AAAA


I say you both take the Ketchikan Challenge. Whoever wins by the larger margin can say their league is better!
 
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Originally posted by Blamo



And even then, this is a completely irrelevant argument, and you're just crusading for your own players worth. I'm not even talking about safeties. Did I make this thread in the safety forum too? No. No I did not. And there is a difference.


STR does so much more that you're failing to get a handle on.

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