Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
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Originally posted by Blamo
FWIW, my ideal level 45ish SS would look like:
74 speed
68 agility
68 vision
60 tackling
48 strength
48 jumping
48 stamina
Coverage Tree:
5-5-0-0-0
Hard Hitter Tree:
4-0-0-0-0
I'm not sure if that's actually possible for level 45... But if jumping and stamina were both at say, 43 instead it wouldn't be that huge of a deal. It's more how I value things than something that's set in stone.
this is actually ... perfect ... i consider this to be accurate, and achievable if done correct from the start via slow building ... my SS is slightly behind the Level 45 track ... but not by much ... didn't slow build ... did it the ... play and be competitive every season method ... which didn't hurt too much ... and was more fun...
FWIW, my ideal level 45ish SS would look like:
74 speed
68 agility
68 vision
60 tackling
48 strength
48 jumping
48 stamina
Coverage Tree:
5-5-0-0-0
Hard Hitter Tree:
4-0-0-0-0
I'm not sure if that's actually possible for level 45... But if jumping and stamina were both at say, 43 instead it wouldn't be that huge of a deal. It's more how I value things than something that's set in stone.
this is actually ... perfect ... i consider this to be accurate, and achievable if done correct from the start via slow building ... my SS is slightly behind the Level 45 track ... but not by much ... didn't slow build ... did it the ... play and be competitive every season method ... which didn't hurt too much ... and was more fun...
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I'd probably switch strength and tackling and my tree's would be like this
Coverage Tree:
2-4-2-0-0
Hard Hitter Tree:
2-0-0-0-0
then I'd work on super vision from then on
Coverage Tree:
2-4-2-0-0
Hard Hitter Tree:
2-0-0-0-0
then I'd work on super vision from then on
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Yeah, I can see that. That's more of a philosophical issue than anything else. Some people still think that Strength is more important than Tackling for tackling... but I still think that it's a fairly preposterous notion, and since all of my players with tackling > strength seem to be doing pretty well across all levels of play, I'm sticking to it until it breaks. The 5 in Wrap Up Tackle is mostly insurance against missing tackles, and would also let me play on normal tackling, which would prevent me from getting dragged as often.
I also think you're overrating Swat Ball, I'd rather just add more jumping TBH... You also underrate agility, since I view Change Direction almost as a bonus to agility because of the way it works. I really hope my SS ends up close to here at 45, although I'm pretty sure I won't be quite there until closer to level 48.
The best possible AEQ to get would be Super Vision, +3 Speed and either Closing Speed, +3 Speed or Big/Monster Hit, +3 speed. I have a SV, +3 Agility piece already, so I probably get to go shopping for the second piece next season.
I also think you're overrating Swat Ball, I'd rather just add more jumping TBH... You also underrate agility, since I view Change Direction almost as a bonus to agility because of the way it works. I really hope my SS ends up close to here at 45, although I'm pretty sure I won't be quite there until closer to level 48.
The best possible AEQ to get would be Super Vision, +3 Speed and either Closing Speed, +3 Speed or Big/Monster Hit, +3 speed. I have a SV, +3 Agility piece already, so I probably get to go shopping for the second piece next season.
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strength helps with quite a few things which is why I like ti better
tackling
fumbles
pass deflections
speed(it might not sure)
jumping(it might not sure)
tackling
fumbles
pass deflections
speed(it might not sure)
jumping(it might not sure)
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Originally posted by chronoaug
Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
Can't read every play. But he usually jumps those plays really well.
Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
Can't read every play. But he usually jumps those plays really well.
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I usually like Strength because of its role in pass deflections more than its role in tackling--but that's really a preference, and if I was a hard-hitting safety I'd definitely prefer tackling.
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Originally posted by chronoaug
Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
Can't read every play. But he usually jumps those plays really well.
No, that's fine. His speed seems pretty fast. 110 with equip/track star? My browser is moving slow so i can't read stuff well anymore. We might have a 2nd round matchup coming up anyways so should be fun.
Originally posted by chronoaug
Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
Can't read every play. But he usually jumps those plays really well.
No, that's fine. His speed seems pretty fast. 110 with equip/track star? My browser is moving slow so i can't read stuff well anymore. We might have a 2nd round matchup coming up anyways so should be fun.
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Originally posted by chronoaug
Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Originally posted by chronoaug
Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
Can't read every play. But he usually jumps those plays really well.
No, that's fine. His speed seems pretty fast. 110 with equip/track star? My browser is moving slow so i can't read stuff well anymore. We might have a 2nd round matchup coming up anyways so should be fun.
There abouts. Then + Zone Specialist and whatever Closing Speed gives.
Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Originally posted by chronoaug
Aww. You let the gangsters do that to you? What was your corner's deal on that? Your safety was just kinda chillin' in the middle wasting time and space. Gotta be a better way to utilize him. Or maybe vision would make him not just sit in the middle of the field twiddling thumbs. I dunno, man. See you in the playoffs though
Can't read every play. But he usually jumps those plays really well.
No, that's fine. His speed seems pretty fast. 110 with equip/track star? My browser is moving slow so i can't read stuff well anymore. We might have a 2nd round matchup coming up anyways so should be fun.
There abouts. Then + Zone Specialist and whatever Closing Speed gives.
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Yea, i got a new AE with +1 closing speed rather than swat ball (it's +2 now). Curious to what it's gonna do on the field now that closing speed is 6. I've seen it activate a few times and it's kinda funny looking. Yea, your guy's speed looks a bit more than mine i could tell. I might switch my last piece of equip over from vision to speed and it'd be about what your guy's is. Dunno yet, as he's playing well and don't want to mess with a good record at the moment.
I had Zone Specialist last season bu this season i have 12 in each of track star/quick/football genius. I did it because i knew a bunch of teams in our conference (ho, chicago, nmr, and some more) run the ball a ton. I figure next season when bort adjusts the sim and people pass more, he'll also adjust VAs and give us another reset. Probably will go back to Zone Specialist then.
I had Zone Specialist last season bu this season i have 12 in each of track star/quick/football genius. I did it because i knew a bunch of teams in our conference (ho, chicago, nmr, and some more) run the ball a ton. I figure next season when bort adjusts the sim and people pass more, he'll also adjust VAs and give us another reset. Probably will go back to Zone Specialist then.
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