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DaMayan
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Nice build britdevine316, he certainly looks more like a lvl 40+.

But then again you should have know that build doesnt do anything any more.
That was the killer mold before "the nerf".
Now there are hords of builds just like that doing nothing, even lvl48+'s with 4 blitz SA, 60+ str, 100+ spd and 85+ agi.
 
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Originally posted by DaMayan
Nice build britdevine316, he certainly looks more like a lvl 40+.

But then again you should have know that build doesnt do anything any more.
That was the killer mold before "the nerf".
Now there are hords of builds just like that doing nothing, even lvl48+'s with 4 blitz SA, 60+ str, 100+ spd and 85+ agi.


Honestly, that looks more like a safety than an end. You do know that he has to defend the run as well, right?
 
BiggerBlue
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Originally posted by britdevine316
Even my guy stopped getting anything last few games, and I consider him to be a pretty dominant build for his level.

I have no idea anymore what actually works in this stupid game

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=682490

Michael "Horse Face" Strahan (Lv. 37 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 245lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $551127
Daily Salary: $4200
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 7
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 261/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 54.54
Speed: 93.83
Agility: 80.18
Jumping: 24.13
Stamina: 31.29
Vision: 51.13
Confidence: 30.13

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.13
Catching: 9
Tackling: 32.4
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 7
Change Direction: 4
Shed Blocks: 10
Tunnel Vision: 9
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 10
Jump the Snap: 4



Your str may be a bit low, get it into the mid-60s at least, First Step to 10

But, I think the killer is your stamina. Bort has already said before that DL players will drain energy like crazy if they don't have a nice base amount of stamina (rule of thumb for DL players is 7+ your lvl.) You won't produce if your player needs to constantly sit and rest or play with low energy.

Last but not least. Cycle through the AEQ and find a unique SA to help your DE out. Like Blitz.

Finally, you have no Wall or Strong Base. Unlike some ignorant fools in this forum I believe they play a role in sacking the QB or getting rid of a block. I would suggest get Wall and Strong Base to 5.
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Finally, you have no Wall or Strong Base. Unlike some ignorant fools in this forum I believe they play a role in sacking the QB or getting rid of a block. I would suggest get Wall and Strong Base to 5.


Do not touch wall or strong base. you are wasting your s.p's.
 
britdevine316
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by BiggerBlue


Finally, you have no Wall or Strong Base. Unlike some ignorant fools in this forum I believe they play a role in sacking the QB or getting rid of a block. I would suggest get Wall and Strong Base to 5.


Do not touch wall or strong base. you are wasting your s.p's.


I wasnt planning on it
 
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Originally posted by britdevine316
Even my guy stopped getting anything last few games, and I consider him to be a pretty dominant build for his level.

I have no idea anymore what actually works in this stupid game

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=682490

Michael "Horse Face" Strahan (Lv. 37 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 245lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $551127
Daily Salary: $4200
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 7
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 261/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 54.54
Speed: 93.83
Agility: 80.18
Jumping: 24.13
Stamina: 31.29
Vision: 51.13
Confidence: 30.13

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.13
Catching: 9
Tackling: 32.4
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 7
Change Direction: 4
Shed Blocks: 10
Tunnel Vision: 9
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 10
Jump the Snap: 4



Would agree with the others. Get your stamina up and first step to atleast a 9 or 10. Physically your build is ahead of you level. Just missing a couple of parts to be dominant for the whole game.
 
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Originally posted by wms02a
Originally posted by britdevine316

Even my guy stopped getting anything last few games, and I consider him to be a pretty dominant build for his level.

I have no idea anymore what actually works in this stupid game

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=682490

Michael "Horse Face" Strahan (Lv. 37 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 245lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $551127
Daily Salary: $4200
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 7
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 261/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 54.54
Speed: 93.83
Agility: 80.18
Jumping: 24.13
Stamina: 31.29
Vision: 51.13
Confidence: 30.13

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.13
Catching: 9
Tackling: 32.4
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 7
Change Direction: 4
Shed Blocks: 10
Tunnel Vision: 9
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 10
Jump the Snap: 4



Would agree with the others. Get your stamina up and first step to atleast a 9 or 10. Physically your build is ahead of you level. Just missing a couple of parts to be dominant for the whole game.


i think you have it backwards
his build is behind his level.
at that level he should have higher attributes with VA than that.
it understandable though since he probably didnt benefit from slow building
 
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Originally posted by iMan
Originally posted by wms02a

Originally posted by britdevine316


Even my guy stopped getting anything last few games, and I consider him to be a pretty dominant build for his level.

I have no idea anymore what actually works in this stupid game

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=682490

Michael "Horse Face" Strahan (Lv. 37 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 245lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $551127
Daily Salary: $4200
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 7
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 261/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 54.54
Speed: 93.83
Agility: 80.18
Jumping: 24.13
Stamina: 31.29
Vision: 51.13
Confidence: 30.13

Football Skills
Blocking: 16.13
Catching: 9
Tackling: 32.4
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 7
Change Direction: 4
Shed Blocks: 10
Tunnel Vision: 9
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 10
Jump the Snap: 4



Would agree with the others. Get your stamina up and first step to atleast a 9 or 10. Physically your build is ahead of you level. Just missing a couple of parts to be dominant for the whole game.


i think you have it backwards
his build is behind his level.
at that level he should have higher attributes with VA than that.
it understandable though since he probably didnt benefit from slow building


I disagree, he focused on his primary attributes first now needs get his secondary caught up. If he is going to be a speed rusher than he also needs to add to first and jump the snap. Sorry physically he is ahead, but still missing key skills.
 
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Okay, I read in another thread that I should feel fine with at least 65 strength... So I moved some of my EQ back around to get back some speed and this is what I have now:

lvl 51

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 65.71
Speed: 89.17
Agility: 90.58
Jumping: 30.61
Stamina: 43.58
Vision: 42.06
Confidence: 40.14

Football Skills
Blocking: 30.08
Catching: 16
Tackling: 48.22
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 10
Kicking: 8
Punting: 9

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 1
Wall: 1
Strong Base: 1
Diving Tackle: 2
Monster Hit: 2

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 9
Change Direction: 5
Shed Blocks: 5
Tunnel Vision: 7
Big Sack: 5

Veteran Abilities
Quick: 15
Track Star: 15
Workout Warrior: 5


I don't necessarily care to hear what I screwed up or that type of "help"... more would like advice on what I should be focusing on with training, EQ, VA's, and SP going forward... those points come pretty slowly these days, but hopefully I can continue to improve!!!

Also, to reiterate, my frustration is that this guy has been an absolute STUD for the last few years and this year does not do jack shit. He has had many games where he gets totally shutout. So, I don't really buy the fact that his build is screwed up in anyway. Just trying to figure out what the GLB gods expect from a DE currently!
 
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Originally posted by mjt071478
Okay, I read in another thread that I should feel fine with at least 65 strength... So I moved some of my EQ back around to get back some speed and this is what I have now:

lvl 51

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 65.71
Speed: 89.17
Agility: 90.58
Jumping: 30.61
Stamina: 43.58
Vision: 42.06
Confidence: 40.14

Football Skills
Blocking: 30.08
Catching: 16
Tackling: 48.22
Throwing: 9
Carrying: 10
Kicking: 8
Punting: 9

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 1
Wall: 1
Strong Base: 1
Diving Tackle: 2
Monster Hit: 2

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 9
Change Direction: 5
Shed Blocks: 5
Tunnel Vision: 7
Big Sack: 5

Veteran Abilities
Quick: 15
Track Star: 15
Workout Warrior: 5


I don't necessarily care to hear what I screwed up or that type of "help"... more would like advice on what I should be focusing on with training, EQ, VA's, and SP going forward... those points come pretty slowly these days, but hopefully I can continue to improve!!!

Also, to reiterate, my frustration is that this guy has been an absolute STUD for the last few years and this year does not do jack shit. He has had many games where he gets totally shutout. So, I don't really buy the fact that his build is screwed up in anyway. Just trying to figure out what the GLB gods expect from a DE currently!


You need some Jump The Snap. Bort has made it very hard for DL to pass the Vision Check this season. Your vision is only 41 and I suspect you're going up against lvl 45-55 OTs on a regular basis, that won't get it done. Your DE is probably lazy off the line majority of the time. I would get Jump The Snap to at least 5 if not 7 (10 if you like.) With that said, you need to pump your vision up to at least 48 if not to the mid 50s.

Second, your Tunnel Vision is too low for lvl 50s. It's effect has been scale back by Bort but it is still a very solid SA. Get it up to 10 ASAP.

Third, Shed Blocks, again the effect is arguable, but I think it would be wise to get it to 7.

Finally, I'm testing the effectiveness of Heavy Weight with many other DEs in GLB. There are many in our test group that reports "improvement", but we are doing more test to see if that is a definitive statement or simply luck of the draw.

 
mjt071478
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Thanks... very helpful advice... with each of my SA's costing at least 4 SP's at this point and leveling happens so slowly it will take me forever to make those changes. Should I consider just retiring my guy?
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This is why DE are retiring.
 
BiggerBlue
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Originally posted by mjt071478
Thanks... very helpful advice... with each of my SA's costing at least 4 SP's at this point and leveling happens so slowly it will take me forever to make those changes. Should I consider just retiring my guy?


Advance Equipment. Most of my SAs are 10+ and I never spend 4 SP to upgrade them.
 
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is anyone on a team using the 3-4 defense with DE's playing in the LB position? my stats have suffered also, so evidently we have been tweaked, but i have been wondering if we might still be effective from the LB position
 
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I wouldn't mind getting some inpput on this build, if y'all don't mind:


Hacksaw Jones (Lv. 39 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'4", 263lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $88017
Daily Salary: $4700
Skill Points: 0
Training Points: 4
Bonus Tokens: 0
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 570/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 64.88
Speed: 88.1
Agility: 72.65
Jumping: 19.34
Stamina: 40.81
Vision: 50.3
Confidence: 38.34

Football Skills
Blocking: 17.34
Catching: 8
Tackling: 49.88
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 3
Change Direction: 3
Shed Blocks: 5
Tunnel Vision: 8
Big Sack: 1

Veteran Abilities
Track Star: 10
Jump the Snap: 6

 
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