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Bukowski
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by reneg2

Originally posted by keyad2269


Originally posted by iMan



100 speed, 70 agility will do well
throw in good amount of First Step and Tunnel Vision and you have a productive DE


+1


Define production? I have several DEs on the 2 teams I GM with those builds and they aren't all that productive in terms of sacks.


True. Once again I feel like I'm keep repeating myself but people need to remember this is a game of Algorithm, not straight math equations. Your various numbers, SAs, and VAs play off one another. You may caught Bort off with a bad algorithm that unevenly has a given or two attributes to be pre-dominant (like Power Backs), however, for DEs Bort has "nerf" the algorithm so much that focusing on a few (spd,agi, FS, TV) doesn't help you if you don't have other attributes, SAs, and VAs to support it.

Anyway, it really depends on where you are and what lvl competition are you playing against.

But for the sake of argument, if your DE is around lvl 35-45 your numbers should look like this to be productive:

Spd and Agi at least 75-80
Vision at least capped at 48
Stamina at least 7+ your level
Strength at least 60
Confidence at least 35 (still debatable here)
First Step at least 7, prefer 10
Tunnel Vision at least 7, prefer 10
Shed Block at least 5, prefer 7, ideally 10
Wall 5
Strong Base 5
VA ability: Jump the Snap, max it ASAP
VA ability2: you may try to max out Quick, Track Star, or Clutch next, I prefer Clutch as it gives an overall boost in clutch situations and not just a single attribute boost.


But what if I want to get Sacks against human players?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=602765

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Rod Long
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by BiggerBlue

Originally posted by reneg2


Originally posted by keyad2269



Originally posted by iMan




100 speed, 70 agility will do well
throw in good amount of First Step and Tunnel Vision and you have a productive DE


+1


Define production? I have several DEs on the 2 teams I GM with those builds and they aren't all that productive in terms of sacks.


True. Once again I feel like I'm keep repeating myself but people need to remember this is a game of Algorithm, not straight math equations. Your various numbers, SAs, and VAs play off one another. You may caught Bort off with a bad algorithm that unevenly has a given or two attributes to be pre-dominant (like Power Backs), however, for DEs Bort has "nerf" the algorithm so much that focusing on a few (spd,agi, FS, TV) doesn't help you if you don't have other attributes, SAs, and VAs to support it.

Anyway, it really depends on where you are and what lvl competition are you playing against.

But for the sake of argument, if your DE is around lvl 35-45 your numbers should look like this to be productive:

Spd and Agi at least 75-80
Vision at least capped at 48
Stamina at least 7+ your level
Strength at least 60
Confidence at least 35 (still debatable here)
First Step at least 7, prefer 10
Tunnel Vision at least 7, prefer 10
Shed Block at least 5, prefer 7, ideally 10
Wall 5
Strong Base 5
VA ability: Jump the Snap, max it ASAP
VA ability2: you may try to max out Quick, Track Star, or Clutch next, I prefer Clutch as it gives an overall boost in clutch situations and not just a single attribute boost.


But what if I want to get Sacks against human players?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_game_log.pl?player_id=602765

In AA



And not to be a dick but without slowbuilding starting from season 3 that is pretty much impossible to reach from a sheer SP investment perspective.

What is that 60-100 points in SAs along with nat 60 strength and min nat 68 speed and agility.???

At level 45 that seems almost a complete pipe dream with those SA's WHILE ignoring tackl/jump/block compltely


 
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Rod, it's a combination of SP, Training, Advanced Equipments, and Custom Equipments. It can be done by lvl 35, one of my retired DE did that by lvl 33 in super slow build, but it was boring as hell for the first 3 seasons.
 
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Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Rod, it's a combination of SP, Training, Advanced Equipments, and Custom Equipments. It can be done by lvl 35, one of my retired DE did that by lvl 33 in super slow build, but it was boring as hell for the first 3 seasons.


good god. hindsight in this game is overly rewarded

edit: nice job tho. wow Blue
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nothing works.

iMan pm me.
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