Warrior General Games

Originally posted by CerwinPD
I ran it in today's scrimmage and it just seemed real slow. My HB ran out of bounds every chance he got it seemed. His agi is definitely high enough as well as a high QC and FS SAs. Maybe it had something to do with vision which his is only a tad over the first cap.

This.

My HB w/ 70+ Agility and 10 QC always seemed to run out of bounds. My visions is less then 40, as is my confidence. Maybe that had something to do with it but at the same time I don't feel it performed well at all.

I have 70 agility and 50 vision. My guy averaged 11.1 YPC on SE in a 58-40 win. Here's two replays. He ran out of bounds once on a screen.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=444135&pbp_id=98752

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=444135&pbp_id=101548

From Bort:

- Super elusive causes stuttering, etc. This mode allows the player to make path adjustments every single tick of the play. Your player must have high vision and agility to pull it off without losing a lot of speed.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2138085



DMP

Originally posted by 2005Cardinals
I have 70 agility and 50 vision. My guy averaged 11.1 YPC on SE in a 58-40 win. Here's two replays. He ran out of bounds once on a screen.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=444135&pbp_id=98752

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=444135&pbp_id=101548

it looked like you were playing against levels much lower than you. Also one big run on 7 carries really throws off the YPC. I still haven't seen much benefit to super elusive at all for RBs. Maybe a lot of vision would make it worthwhile, but i'm still not convinced.

Originally posted by Dirty Mo Posse
From Bort:

- Super elusive causes stuttering, etc. This mode allows the player to make path adjustments every single tick of the play. Your player must have high vision and agility to pull it off without losing a lot of speed.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=2138085



DMP

Hmmmmm

Originally posted by roche
Originally posted by 2005Cardinals

I have 70 agility and 50 vision. My guy averaged 11.1 YPC on SE in a 58-40 win. Here's two replays. He ran out of bounds once on a screen.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=444135&pbp_id=98752

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=444135&pbp_id=101548

it looked like you were playing against levels much lower than you. Also one big run on 7 carries really throws off the YPC. I still haven't seen much benefit to super elusive at all for RBs. Maybe a lot of vision would make it worthwhile, but i'm still not convinced.



I'm not sure how you can say it "throws" off the ypc. It's an average, and if you can pull off a big run, that means you probably have the potential to do it again.

My HB played against a team that was a little weaker, but superelusive wasn't a liability.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=447381&pbp_id=657299
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=447381&pbp_id=662035

Ran out of bounds quite a few times, but I don't mind too much. I happen to have a +2 Head Fake piece (Storing BT), and that might've helped a bit as there was a lot of fakes.
If I had gone with my normal equipment, I'd probably have a better ypc average excluding the 2 big runs, but my overall yard gain would be lower since my chances of getting those big runs would lessen.

Does anyone have a scrimmage that actually put two evenly matched teams together? Talking about complete blowouts doesn't mean anything.

Originally posted by gtg047x
Does anyone have a scrimmage that actually put two evenly matched teams together? Talking about complete blowouts doesn't mean anything.


Ask me again in a few hours.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/compare_teams.pl?team1=4515&team2=3029



DMP

Originally posted by gtg047x
Does anyone have a scrimmage that actually put two evenly matched teams together? Talking about complete blowouts doesn't mean anything.

I did, 2x already, both my backs had under 3.0 YPC against equal teams!

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=441432

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=360256

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=360456

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=363658

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=364704

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=364872

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=366152

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=367367

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441432&pbp_id=367381

The team we faced was the team that beat us in the championship game on Season 7. Here is my HB build! (BTW, the 14 in Quick was not there for that 1st game!


Naruto Uzumaki (Lv. 49 HB)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 197lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $20006
Daily Salary: $5000
Skill Points: 15
Training Points: 3
Bonus Tokens: 8
Veteran Points: 0
Next Level: 716/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 51.87
Speed: 88.46
Agility: 75.11
Jumping: 29.08
Stamina: 50.08
Vision: 51.88
Confidence: 49.01

Football Skills
Blocking: 17.08
Catching: 41.34
Tackling: 9
Throwing: 17.08
Carrying: 52.69
Kicking: 7
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 6
Head Fake: 3
First Step: 5
Juke: 5
Spin: 3

Power Back Abilities
Cover Up: 3
Lower the Shoulder: 1
Stiff Arm: 1
Power Through: 0
Dive for Yardage: 0

Veteran Abilities
Quick: 14
Track Star: 15

And here is my second RB, facing a SA Pro team and also having a less than stellar game:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=441228

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=745533

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=746810

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=748516

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=749509

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=750000

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=750518

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=750532

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=750550

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=441228&pbp_id=750774


Here is his build!

Sasuke Uchiwa (Lv. 49 HB)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 205lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $149850
Daily Salary: $13252
Skill Points: 12
Training Points: 3
Bonus Tokens: 2
Veteran Points: 29
Next Level: 143/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 51.04
Speed: 80.97
Agility: 77.63
Jumping: 34.08
Stamina: 45.82
Vision: 51.59
Confidence: 46.72

Football Skills
Blocking: 17.99
Catching: 37.07
Tackling: 10
Throwing: 17.08
Carrying: 51.82
Kicking: 8
Punting: 9

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 5
Head Fake: 5
First Step: 5
Juke: 8
Spin: 3

Power Back Abilities
Cover Up: 3
Lower the Shoulder: 1
Stiff Arm: 1
Power Through: 1
Dive for Yardage: 1

Veteran Abilities

less than stellar is right, there is no way I could put up with watching that for a full season. You obviously have some great backs that should be doing better than that. I think I'm gonna go with a balanced running style from now on (or until next season).

Originally posted by gtg047x
less than stellar is right, there is no way I could put up with watching that for a full season. You obviously have some great backs that should be doing better than that. I think I'm gonna go with a balanced running style from now on (or until next season).

I will be back to my original setting which is +55, I had success with them last season that way, lets see if they are still good this season!

thanks pat for posting that, it's amazing how many times you see the guy run backwards. I was pretty upset to see Bort put so much time into super elusive when it isn't good for anything except punt/kick returns which no one really had a problem with.

My HB acually did decent. He had an avg of 4 ypc so thats realy not htat bad. and that low YPC was mostly becaus ouer Oline lte them thrue a bit to early. I will not be yusing super elusive any more. Going with balanced in the next scrim.

Originally posted by pat2007
And here is my second RB, facing a SA Pro team and also having a less than stellar game:


Here is his build!

Sasuke Uchiwa (Lv. 49 HB)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 205lbs


Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 51.04
Speed: 80.97
Agility: 77.63
Jumping: 34.08
Stamina: 45.82
Vision: 51.59
Confidence: 46.72

Football Skills
Blocking: 17.99
Catching: 37.07
Tackling: 10
Throwing: 17.08
Carrying: 51.82
Kicking: 8
Punting: 9

Special Abilities
Elusive Back Abilities
Quick Cut: 5
Head Fake: 5
First Step: 5
Juke: 8
Spin: 3


not what i want to hear