Warrior General Games

Originally posted by secondeye
Originally posted by amerker

thanks alot i just dont wanna screw him up like i screwed up some of my other first time players

Then ignore the masses that think a WR build works at FS.

90 speed and 60 agility = problems with body control. No focus on jumping = lower ints and less pass deflections.

Shoot for 49 in speed, agility, vision, jumping, catching, stamina.. then work speed and agility and vision to 62.

In the meantime, you try to train up confidence, strength, and tackling to a respectable 40ish level.

Take the SA Super Vision as your primary SA, get that to at least 5, working it up to max eventually.. or at least around 8.

For equipment, balance it between Speed and agility to be near equal to have perfect speed and acceleration control for taking the necessary angles to get to your assignment.

VAs should probably be Football Genius and then Zone specialist, but allow yourself creativity to be what you want to be and do what works for your defense.

Obviously that's just one way, but there's a reason guys have 90 speed and 50 agility and still don't have an impact at their position. It's because the build is extremely overrated. It's a WR build, not a FS build.



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I see no body control issues. Was making plays like this all season.

If I were to do my FS over, I'd do his capping in this order:
68 spd, 68 agi, 60 vision, 48 jumping, 48 tackling, 48 confidence.

I just created my first FS as well and I think i'm gonna go with (60 speed, 68 agility, 60 vision, 48 jump)

Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
Originally posted by secondeye

Originally posted by amerker


thanks alot i just dont wanna screw him up like i screwed up some of my other first time players

Then ignore the masses that think a WR build works at FS.

90 speed and 60 agility = problems with body control. No focus on jumping = lower ints and less pass deflections.

Shoot for 49 in speed, agility, vision, jumping, catching, stamina.. then work speed and agility and vision to 62.

In the meantime, you try to train up confidence, strength, and tackling to a respectable 40ish level.

Take the SA Super Vision as your primary SA, get that to at least 5, working it up to max eventually.. or at least around 8.

For equipment, balance it between Speed and agility to be near equal to have perfect speed and acceleration control for taking the necessary angles to get to your assignment.

VAs should probably be Football Genius and then Zone specialist, but allow yourself creativity to be what you want to be and do what works for your defense.

Obviously that's just one way, but there's a reason guys have 90 speed and 50 agility and still don't have an impact at their position. It's because the build is extremely overrated. It's a WR build, not a FS build.



http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=362579&pbp_id=15871564
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=362579&pbp_id=15875105
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I see no body control issues. Was making plays like this all season.

If I were to do my FS over, I'd do his capping in this order:
68 spd, 68 agi, 60 vision, 48 jumping, 48 tackling, 48 confidence.

You're level 47, you probably have at least 70 agility...nnnot really talking about you bud. I'm more talking about 90/50 type guys you see around the mid 30s. You also only had what, 1 INT and 31 PDs? Tough league I know, doesn't mean you suck, but hardly an impact player.

Originally posted by secondeye
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You're level 47, you probably have at least 70 agility...nnnot really talking about you bud. I'm more talking about 90/50 type guys you see around the mid 30s. ...

Again: the problem isn't the 90 speed, but the 50 agility. The player wouldn't suck less if he had 60 speed, 50 agility. 60 agility is just minimum, but works.

So it's not about a "speed-agility-gap", but about insufficient agility.

I actually only have around 65 agility. And a lot more speed than that.

Saying 31 PD's isn't an impact couldn't be further from the truth. Especially from the FS position/Cover 1. Sure I had less INT's than your player but I was also playing 3 leagues above yours at a lower level too and didn't have all the cupcake games that you racked up most of your interceptions in. Plus I played 180 less plays during the course of the season and probably faced a lot less passes because of our games being a lot closer due to not being in a lower level league.

The 90/50 - 100-60 guys are on the right track. Having all the agility and vision in the world doesn't do much if you can't beat the Ball to the spot.

Softcapping stamina and catching before double capping speed/agi/vision is a remarkably inefficient use of SPs.

Originally posted by Riggs_Inator
I actually only have around 65 agility. And a lot more speed than that.
Saying 31 PD's isn't an impact couldn't be further from the truth. Especially from the FS position/Cover 1. Sure I had less INT's than your player but I was also playing 3 leagues above yours at a lower level too and didn't have all the cupcake games that you racked up most of your interceptions in. Plus I played 180 less plays during the course of the season and probably faced a lot less passes because of our games being a lot closer due to not being in a lower level league.

The 90/50 - 100-60 guys are on the right track. Having all the agility and vision in the world doesn't do much if you can't beat the Ball to the spot.
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Originally posted by secondeye
Tough league I know, doesn't mean you suck, but hardly an impact player.


how many FSs are impact players? you are the last line of defense, so you need to be able to get anywhere on th efield in a hurry.

i'm a believer in the "big3" and even have VIS highest on one of my two FS: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=67282

the other one has more of a speed-focus: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=92512

do not forget tackling as the last line of defense

Originally posted by PsychoMan001
do not forget tackling as the last line of defense

of course not. you should probably have it in the 40ies eventually. but first SPD/AGI/VIS to the 3:1 cap IMO

Nothing wrong with 60 agility.

I have 89 speed and I am level 47 andhave had a better carrer than most. SPEED ISNT EVERYTHING

Originally posted by Todd Toddy
Originally posted by secondeye

Tough league I know, doesn't mean you suck, but hardly an impact player.


how many FSs are impact players? you are the last line of defense, so you need to be able to get anywhere on th efield in a hurry.

i'm a believer in the "big3" and even have VIS highest on one of my two FS: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=67282

the other one has more of a speed-focus: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=92512

Mine is.....

Originally posted by burn_209
Originally posted by Todd Toddy

Originally posted by secondeye


Tough league I know, doesn't mean you suck, but hardly an impact player.


how many FSs are impact players? you are the last line of defense, so you need to be able to get anywhere on th efield in a hurry.

i'm a believer in the "big3" and even have VIS highest on one of my two FS: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=67282

the other one has more of a speed-focus: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=92512

Mine is.....

you have a nice player there no doubt, but impact player? don't take it personal, since i don't regard my players as impact players either.

your FS and my two FS have played the same amount of games and if you compare their stats(games, tackles, INTs, defensive TDs, PDs) it looks like this:

your FS: 104, 295, 25, 8, 88
my FS: 102, 389, 48, 12, 282
my other FS: 104, 277, 16, 5, 115

granted, my first FS played quite a few snaps at CB so my other FS and your FS look very similar stat-wise. interesting find!

Originally posted by Todd Toddy
Originally posted by burn_209
Originally posted by Todd Toddy
Originally posted by secondeye
Tough league I know, doesn't mean you suck, but hardly an impact player.how many FSs are impact players? you are the last line of defense, so you need to be able to get anywhere on th efield in a hurry.

i'm a believer in the "big3" and even have VIS highest on one of my two FS: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=67282

the other one has more of a speed-focus: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=92512Mine is.....you have a nice player there no doubt, but impact player? don't take it personal, since i don't regard my players as impact players either.

your FS and my two FS have played the same amount of games and if you compare their stats(games, tackles, INTs, defensive TDs, PDs) it looks like this:

your FS: 104, 295, 25, 8, 88
my FS: 102, 389, 48, 12, 282
my other FS: 104, 277, 16, 5, 115

granted, my first FS played quite a few snaps at CB so my other FS and your FS look very similar stat-wise. interesting find!
Comparing stats in this game between two players is not going to win any arguments. Hell, they are not even a point of contention.