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Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by coachviking

Originally posted by djgomez33


What would you guys think about suggesting a World League? All the region-specific pro leagues would feed into a World league. I think that would be able to be done. And then we would have a true GLB king...or if its Monmouth, queen.

UH WHAT

BITCH?

It was meant as a joke...I guess the smiley that is winking doesn't clarify that.



The response also a joke. I forgot the smiley

I think a world league is the way to go.

I think that a tournament amongst all of the AAA and Pro league teams should be in it and the top 16 go into the new World League. (it could be easily pared down to just Pro/AAA playoff teams. Actually that might be a better idea) Pro League teams get a first round bye. then it's 32 pro vs 32 AAA in each Region (or 16 vs.16 if just using playoff teams) Games do not have to be region specific. USA AAA could play against a Oceania Pro league team.

Once the 16 are set:

World League = 8 playoff teams.

Pro League Champions do not automatically get promoted.
They play against one of the World League non-playoff teams for the right to be promoted.

The winner of that game would be in the World League, the loser gets sent to the region that just beat them.

This was all thought out in about 5 minutes so if there are gaps, they can be worked on to close.

Originally posted by Mat McBriar
USA Pro West = World League

Really? Is that why a team with a losing or 8-8 record is likely to make the playoffs there?

The bottom half of the West is cupcake city.

Originally posted by cwrujosh
Originally posted by Mat McBriar

USA Pro West = World League

Really? Is that why a team with a losing or 8-8 record is likely to make the playoffs there?

The bottom half of the West is cupcake city.

lol. Hasn't your team had a losing record every season? Glass houses and whatnot...

Originally posted by cwrujosh


The bottom half of the West is cupcake city.

Take this however you want, but BSB would beat your team by 50 pts today... oh, and we are currently in 10th in the West, and unlikely to finish higher than 7th.

Heck, we went 3-0 (incl. a win over Green Bay) vs the loleast using Basic Tactics. Now, those East teams might have also been using Basic Tactics, but that still would say that we have as much or more talent than them (certainly not what I would call cupcake city)... and we are in 10th in the West for now, in case you missed that.

Originally posted by CTap
Originally posted by cwrujosh



The bottom half of the West is cupcake city.

Take this however you want, but BSB would beat your team by 50 pts today... oh, and we are currently in 10th in the West, and unlikely to finish higher than 7th.

Heck, we went 3-0 (incl. a win over Green Bay) using Basic Tactics. Now, those East teams might have also been using Basic Tactics, but that still would say that we have as much or more talent than them... and we are in 10th in the West for now, in case you missed that.

In the words of Ricky Bobby...

That...Just...Happened!

I should add that South Bay and Parma are pretty darn good too...

Also, I should add that I respect all of the teams in both the East and the West (other than the gutted)... everyone here is pretty good and quite a few of the teams are REALLY good... even those not at the top of the standings.

Originally posted by SteelersInsider
Originally posted by remus7x

imo the best way to do a World/Champions League is....

-16 teams, not a full league i know, but i'd rather it just be all the top top teams playing each other, go big or go home. Plus if you get to a true Champions league i'd want all the teams in it to play each other in a season. Every team makes the playoffs, we just seed 1-16

-The 2 Conference winners of each pro league would start it out.

-Demotions would go to the first round losers, harsh for one loss but i think it makes it that much more interesting.

-If a team that won its first round game decides to go cpu, the team with the best record of the first round losers gets to stay.

-When you get demoted, you go to the pro league where you came from.

-In the event that a Pro league would have both of its teams it sent to Champions League sent back in demotion, that pro league would just demote an additional team. Usually there are more than 4 teams that deserve demotion anyways so not a big deal. I know that it carries the additional demotion down the line to other leagues, but that will promote more competitiveness anyways.

-Pro LEAGUE winners get promoted each year.

just a thought


there is no way to guarantee an equal number of teams go back to each league. And if 4 teams go back to 1 league, then you will have to demote more teams from that league then. It would kind of be a hassle.

Regardless, that isn't the main stumbling block. It's WEPL who thinks their league is better than everyone else's and they don't want to do a world league.

In my version, each league only has 2 contributions at the start and can only have one team move up to the Champions league per year, so at least for the first year you only would have to worry about a max of 2 being sent back. It would take 3 seasons to even get 4 teams from one league in it and then all 4 would have to lose to get demoted, unlikely. But i do see your point and it could get a bit messy, some hassle, but it would be more than worth it imo.

If you want to keep continuity, my way is better. Every season a team from US Pro East moves up, and one moves down. Same for US Pro West, CDN Pro East/West and all other conferences.

You always move down to the conference you came from. Keeps all old rivalries intact and no flip flopping around to different leagues or conferences.

The downside is that you can finish second in the league and you still end up being demoted if the team from your Pro Conference finishes first. But that is life. If Pittsburgh wins the Superbowl, maybe the Ravens were the second best team this year...but they didn't get a chance to play in the big game. Thems the breaks.

Any concern that this league would just lead to even more rampant "tanking/gutting" as the disparity between the haves and have nots became obvious each season. Even saying this might have the 32 best teams in GLB, there are still an elite few (say 5-8 or so) who stand out. The other 11 might see it as a futile effort and intentionally bomb in an effort to go back to their home league, right?

How much fun would a world league be where half the games were 150-0?

Hard to say. Teams that are good enough to get here shouldn't tank out very easily. Plus they are likely to get demoted back to their "home" conference.

It would definitely cut down on gutting in the Pro leagues, for the opposite reason. Teams that feel like they have NO shot, will have these elite teams removed from their conference.

Originally posted by CTap
Any concern that this league would just lead to even more rampant "tanking/gutting" as the disparity between the haves and have nots became obvious each season. Even saying this might have the 32 best teams in GLB, there are still an elite few (say 5-8 or so) who stand out. The other 11 might see it as a futile effort and intentionally bomb in an effort to go back to their home league, right?

How much fun would a world league be where half the games were 150-0?

I would rather say, "I have the best team in GLB' over "I have the best team in USA Pro.' That is what brought the idea to my head to begin with. Then you can't have this big conference scrimmages in which the opposing team says something along the lines of 'we don't gameplan for scrimmages.'

Don't we already see a quite a few games every season are that are complete blowouts? I mean look at the Lincoln vs. Monmouth game this season? JK, that was for you xcoach.

So, with 2 teams going up from each conference, your basically telling those from SEA Pro, WEPL, EEPL, and Africa this:

Hey, if you have a less "worse" season than your partner you still get the fun of getting your ass kicked by the real best teams.

And then, you also have to tell a USA Pro team:

Hey, you may have gotten into the final 4 / elite 8 but the other team did better than you. Go back down.


That just doesn't make sense, if your going to have a true world league it should be the best period, not just the best from every country. Other than the top team from SA (maybe) and the top team from Oceania, our scrimmage "tournaments" with them haven't really been that close.

Originally posted by Galkuris
So, with 2 teams going up from each conference, your basically telling those from SEA Pro, WEPL, EEPL, and Africa this:

Hey, if you have a less "worse" season than your partner you still get the fun of getting your ass kicked by the real best teams.

And then, you also have to tell a USA Pro team:

Hey, you may have gotten into the final 4 / elite 8 but the other team did better than you. Go back down.


That just doesn't make sense, if your going to have a true world league it should be the best period, not just the best from every country. Other than the top team from SA (maybe) and the top team from Oceania, our scrimmage "tournaments" with them haven't really been that close.

I agree the scrimmages haven't been close. However, I would prefer a large Bowtie scenario so their can be no arguments who is best.

Originally posted by djgomez33
Originally posted by Galkuris

So, with 2 teams going up from each conference, your basically telling those from SEA Pro, WEPL, EEPL, and Africa this:

Hey, if you have a less "worse" season than your partner you still get the fun of getting your ass kicked by the real best teams.

And then, you also have to tell a USA Pro team:

Hey, you may have gotten into the final 4 / elite 8 but the other team did better than you. Go back down.


That just doesn't make sense, if your going to have a true world league it should be the best period, not just the best from every country. Other than the top team from SA (maybe) and the top team from Oceania, our scrimmage "tournaments" with them haven't really been that close.

I agree the scrimmages haven't been close. However, I would prefer a large Bowtie scenario so their can be no arguments who is best.

tbh the only way I would not oppose this, would be if these things are included(or something close):

1. Forget the different regions, they all feed into one so they shouldn't be country/continent dependent.

2. The bottom 16 teams go down every year, no matter where they "originally" came from. You miss the playoffs, you let someone else come in the next season. Teams are randomly sent down to one of the Pro Leagues.

3. If some overhauls are made and some of the top ranked divisions/teams get moved to lower ranking areas. OR the initial entries are not equal from each region.

For example, out of 32 teams moving up:
8 from USAPro, 8 from CPL, 4 from SAPro, 4 from Ociania, 2 from each of the others.


We would still have the better regions sending up a lot stronger and more competitive teams for a long time, but at least it would be closer. But, there are many that probably wouldn't like this.