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This is one thing I can actually agree partially with UD on. Vision is great, but people tend to go overboard with it. (Although I do think it should be taken higher than 50)

i still think vision is handcuffed to confidence... but until i take car of other things with my build... i can't really check it until about a season .... maybe 2

Vision = speed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> agility.

I wouldn't put any points in Quick, and I'd vote for finishing out Track Star then moving on to Football Genius.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by FatNasty

Originally posted by UnderDogs


Originally posted by drakeborn



Originally posted by UnderDogs





what's your vision?

At level 30, just under 70 with 7 Superior Vision (w/CE and AE). Working it up a bit more before I'm done with it.





Yeah cause I was gonna say MY S.S. looks just as good as yours with 50 vision.

Interesting comparison. Your guy is a heat seeking missile. Looks like you have quite a bit more speed to vision? That's what I'd like my SS to look like.

Ya and he plays a league higher. These people get way too nuts about vision I think 50 is perfect. I will wait till we get promoted this year to AAA. I will wait about 3 to 4 games before I boost. If he is still looking good in AAA, I won't boost vision. BUT if I see he is behind in AAA I will boost and maybe give him some more vision.

Your SS is like the highest leveled in your league. Against better competition, I think you'd see the difference in not getting vision to at least 60.

Originally posted by DanNava
Your SS is like the highest leveled in your league. Against better competition, I think you'd see the difference in not getting vision to at least 60.

Are you stupid? I am the lowest level starter on my own team.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by DanNava

Your SS is like the highest leveled in your league. Against better competition, I think you'd see the difference in not getting vision to at least 60.

Are you stupid? I am the lowest level starter on my own team.


Yeah, you're on a team with higher leveled people, so your SS benefits from playing with higher leveled teammates. Do you think your SS would do as well with lower levels on D lining up next to you?

your team's level on D far outweighs a lot of your opponents'.

Originally posted by DanNava
Yeah, you're on a team with higher leveled people, so your SS benefits from playing with higher leveled teammates. Do you think your SS would do as well with lower levels on D lining up next to you?
your team's level on D far outweighs a lot of your opponents'.

change your story now? First i am the highest level in my whole league now this. Have you actually took the time to look over our league?!!?!? it's very competitive. hardly any gut jobs and every team is between 54-57 over all. hahah and the last two games we played; we played against the best teams in our conference and we steam rolled them. My S.S. single handedly stopped their hb on screens from a cover 2 defense. he leads the team in tackles. TFL's and pretty close to tops in P.D's on the team lol. are you bored? we could talk about something that makes sense, if you just need someone to talk to.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
Originally posted by DanNava

Yeah, you're on a team with higher leveled people, so your SS benefits from playing with higher leveled teammates. Do you think your SS would do as well with lower levels on D lining up next to you?
your team's level on D far outweighs a lot of your opponents'.

change your story now? First i am the highest level in my whole league now this. Have you actually took the time to look over our league?!!?!? it's very competitive. hardly any gut jobs and every team is between 54-57 over all. hahah and the last two games we played; we played against the best teams in our conference and we steam rolled them. My S.S. single handedly stopped their hb on screens from a cover 2 defense. he leads the team in tackles. TFL's and pretty close to tops in P.D's on the team lol. are you bored? we could talk about something that makes sense, if you just need someone to talk to.

I didn't change my story. I didn't say you were highest leveled player, I said that only in reference to SSs, not other positions. But I said "like" to indicate one of the top.

I think you're getting a bit defensive here, man. I didn't knock your SS. I simply stated that being on such a strong defensive team in your conference probably masks having lower vision. I've seen vision of over 60 make a clear difference. Reaction times are greatly increased from what I've noticed.

BTW, your team is the only 57 I see with 5 teams below 54.

these are plays from today's game.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11719450

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11721087

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11722017

I think we could both be in agreement that vision definitely helps making these plays right? ya well it's 50.

how's that for reaction time almost as far as possible from the play, making the play?

I won't change my mind. People are nuts with their vision.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
these are plays from today's game.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11719450

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11721087

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11722017

I think we could both be in agreement that vision definitely helps making these plays right? ya well it's 50.

how's that for reaction time almost as far as possible from the play, making the play?

I won't change my mind. People are nuts with their vision.
Around how much speed/agility do you have? I'm impressed with your guy's reaction time.

Choose yourself (just watch when the SS heads for the guy that get's the ball):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11718358
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11718421

vs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=291356&pbp_id=10802250 (...even on run focus)

hard hitter imo

Originally posted by RAPB
Choose yourself (just watch when the SS heads for the guy that get's the ball):

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11718358
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=310755&pbp_id=11718421

vs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=291356&pbp_id=10802250 (...even on run focus)



my guy plays every game on run focus too.

What point are you trying to make here?

that your guy is better with higher vision? they look pretty much the same to me.

Originally posted by UnderDogs
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my guy plays every game on run focus too.

What point are you trying to make here?

that your guy is better with higher vision? they look pretty much the same to me.

If you feel fine, just go on.

But others might look for the difference higher vision makes in "everyday play". Since it's obvious what will happen if a 50 vision guy faces a fake-build, I pointed out the difference in regular pass coverage.

I didn't use "better" or something alike, but let everyone choose for themselfes. And I'm pretty sure even you will change your opinion as you move up to AAA and maybe finally Pro league.

Originally posted by RAPB
Originally posted by UnderDogs

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my guy plays every game on run focus too.

What point are you trying to make here?

that your guy is better with higher vision? they look pretty much the same to me.

If you feel fine, just go on.

But others might look for the difference higher vision makes in "everyday play". Since it's obvious what will happen if a 50 vision guy faces a fake-build, I pointed out the difference in regular pass coverage.

I didn't use "better" or something alike, but let everyone choose for themselfes. And I'm pretty sure even you will change your opinion as you move up to AAA and maybe finally Pro league.



I see zero difference between the plays you showed of my guy and the plays you show of your guy. the only difference I see is that my guy makes the tackle or the pass deflection once he is in position, where your guy misses the tackle and hardly makes p.d.'s

But yeah I already made that point clear. when we get promoted to AAA i will see if I need vision. Until then I think his vision is perfect. we'll see.

I also see whoever is running your defense is an average tactician, sending you on blitzes from cover 2. That is pretty dumb.