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Originally posted by The Duff Man
I think Philly is playing possum. Were they boosted for their last game?


Token boosts...gotta be token boosts.
 
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Originally posted by Galkuris
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Originally posted by Jed


No, we just suck now. Whether you know it or not, I've always bucked the system a bit on Speed and preferred a more balanced approach to building players. Suddenly, this season, those balanced players started to suck, horribly.


what part of speed is kicking your butt more so than usual? Serious question. Speed WR's aren't rolling because QB passing distance was dialed back. Speed backs aren't on fire by any means. And have you seen speed DE's lately.


My guess would be LB/CB/S. I'd still take speed at WR over anything else though, even with these changes.


Those, speed/agility by linemen, and a large part is the fact that much of what we used to run on both sides of the ball just doesn't work the same way anymore. I don't just mean people figuring us out, I mean the players just don't move the same ways and we don't get good results anymore.

Not a complaint, just a statement of fact, don't look for us to bounce back like we normally do, we just suck now.
 
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Times have changed....


West > East
 
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Originally posted by Jed
Originally posted by Galkuris

Originally posted by coachviking


Originally posted by Jed



No, we just suck now. Whether you know it or not, I've always bucked the system a bit on Speed and preferred a more balanced approach to building players. Suddenly, this season, those balanced players started to suck, horribly.


what part of speed is kicking your butt more so than usual? Serious question. Speed WR's aren't rolling because QB passing distance was dialed back. Speed backs aren't on fire by any means. And have you seen speed DE's lately.


My guess would be LB/CB/S. I'd still take speed at WR over anything else though, even with these changes.


Those, speed/agility by linemen, and a large part is the fact that much of what we used to run on both sides of the ball just doesn't work the same way anymore. I don't just mean people figuring us out, I mean the players just don't move the same ways and we don't get good results anymore.

Not a complaint, just a statement of fact, don't look for us to bounce back like we normally do, we just suck now.


K-zoo started out 0-2 a few seasons ago before we won the championship...don't count yourselves out
 
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Yea, times change and in seasons' past, whenever there was a change, we would hold off on boosting and try to boost to take care of whatever we're lacking. But between the fact that the changes were a bit larger this season than in the past when it comes to many of our players and the fact that slow-build players are not just catching up to, but have passed our season 1/2 players by quite a bit, I'm counting us out.
 
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I agree that slow build players are going to take over this league eventually, but I don't think many true slow builds are here yet. I know that there isn't a single one on GB.
 
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Well, we brought up some slow players this season whose skills/SA's are on par or higher than people they replaced so I assume it's happening elsewhere. We just didn't do a mass-replace of players like it looks like we might have to do in order to compete.
 
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I wouldn't get too down (or maybe you should so I can beat you guys). In the middle of season 4 (after one of Bort's change orgies), GB went on a 2 game skid that was beyond ridiculous, and should have lost one before that, if we hadn't been playing a cup cake. We got spanked by the Shockers and another team in back to back games worse than we'd ever been spanked before. They were like 50 something to 7 or 10 scores. It was flat out ugly. The combined point total scored on us in those 2 games either exceeded or nearly exceeded our total points given up the season before. I somehow reinvented the wheel and won up to pros that season.

I understand what you're going through. In reality, though, the sky really isn't falling and things can be turned around.
 
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Originally posted by PP
I wouldn't get too down (or maybe you should so I can beat you guys). In the middle of season 4 (after one of Bort's change orgies), GB went on a 2 game skid that was beyond ridiculous, and should have lost one before that, if we hadn't been playing a cup cake. We got spanked by the Shockers and another team in back to back games worse than we'd ever been spanked before. They were like 50 something to 7 or 10 scores. It was flat out ugly. The combined point total scored on us in those 2 games either exceeded or nearly exceeded our total points given up the season before. I somehow reinvented the wheel and won up to pros that season.

I understand what you're going through. In reality, though, the sky really isn't falling and things can be turned around.


OK, so Who Dey was a cupcake when we had you down until you scored like 21 unanswered points in the second half. I see how you are PP.
 
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Originally posted by Jed
Well, we brought up some slow players this season whose skills/SA's are on par or higher than people they replaced so I assume it's happening elsewhere. We just didn't do a mass-replace of players like it looks like we might have to do in order to compete.


Maybe you should change your team name. It seems it is starting to rub off on your players .
 
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Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95
Originally posted by PP

I wouldn't get too down (or maybe you should so I can beat you guys). In the middle of season 4 (after one of Bort's change orgies), GB went on a 2 game skid that was beyond ridiculous, and should have lost one before that, if we hadn't been playing a cup cake. We got spanked by the Shockers and another team in back to back games worse than we'd ever been spanked before. They were like 50 something to 7 or 10 scores. It was flat out ugly. The combined point total scored on us in those 2 games either exceeded or nearly exceeded our total points given up the season before. I somehow reinvented the wheel and won up to pros that season.

I understand what you're going through. In reality, though, the sky really isn't falling and things can be turned around.


OK, so Who Dey was a cupcake when we had you down until you scored like 21 unanswered points in the second half. I see how you are PP.


LOL....No. It wasn't Who Dey. It was Capital Punishment, the game before the skid. Coming back to beat Who Dey showed me that I had the ship starting to turn around. You guys always had a solid and scary team.
 
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Originally posted by PP
Originally posted by palmer_garnett_95

Originally posted by PP


I wouldn't get too down (or maybe you should so I can beat you guys). In the middle of season 4 (after one of Bort's change orgies), GB went on a 2 game skid that was beyond ridiculous, and should have lost one before that, if we hadn't been playing a cup cake. We got spanked by the Shockers and another team in back to back games worse than we'd ever been spanked before. They were like 50 something to 7 or 10 scores. It was flat out ugly. The combined point total scored on us in those 2 games either exceeded or nearly exceeded our total points given up the season before. I somehow reinvented the wheel and won up to pros that season.

I understand what you're going through. In reality, though, the sky really isn't falling and things can be turned around.


OK, so Who Dey was a cupcake when we had you down until you scored like 21 unanswered points in the second half. I see how you are PP.


LOL....No. It wasn't Who Dey. It was Capital Punishment, the game before the skid. Coming back to beat Who Dey showed me that I had the ship starting to turn around. You guys always had a solid and scary team.


Ok, so I read that wrong. I was thinking after those two losses not before.

Now, our solid and scary team is scattered throughout just about every region of GLB. Although, I was glad OFG offered to give some of our guys a home.

BTW, I was just kidding. I know you never thought that way about Who Dey.
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Glad to see ya again, Palmer, but I wish you'd taken your HB to Africa...That's all OFG needed was a deeper/stronger run game. It isn't like they've always dominated on the ground or anything.
 
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by Jed

No, we just suck now. Whether you know it or not, I've always bucked the system a bit on Speed and preferred a more balanced approach to building players. Suddenly, this season, those balanced players started to suck, horribly.


what part of speed is kicking your butt more so than usual? Serious question. Speed WR's aren't rolling because QB passing distance was dialed back. Speed backs aren't on fire by any means. And have you seen speed DE's lately.


Speed DEs are effective actually.

 
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Originally posted by jrry32
Originally posted by coachviking

Originally posted by Jed


No, we just suck now. Whether you know it or not, I've always bucked the system a bit on Speed and preferred a more balanced approach to building players. Suddenly, this season, those balanced players started to suck, horribly.


what part of speed is kicking your butt more so than usual? Serious question. Speed WR's aren't rolling because QB passing distance was dialed back. Speed backs aren't on fire by any means. And have you seen speed DE's lately.


Speed DEs are effective actually.



Most aren't. Some are but for the majority the once elite DE's are average.
 
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