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Galkuris
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Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco
Originally posted by Romeorr

fact is alot of teams would throw 8-9 in the box and the hb would still gain 5-8yds a carry, does that seem real?


Show me 1 game where a team had 5-8 yard average per carry against 2 equally matched teams...with a decent defensive gameplan.

FACT IS....the best you could hope for was 3.5 - 4 yards per carry:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=286284
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=274483
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=287960


Not too hard to find to be honest:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=210176

Or just look at most of HHWs and South Bays games last season.

 
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Originally posted by Galkuris

Not too hard to find to be honest:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=210176

Or just look at most of HHWs and South Bays games last season.



Okay, well I knew HHW would come to the discussion - what happened when HHW tried to pass? I don't think it's wise to use an anomoly like HHW to prove how REAL a game sim is or is not. We all know HHW is built to run the ball - nothing more nothing less. They are the best at it! You can't beat them if you don't stop their running game. I don't know what that has to do with the changes in the OVERALL game sim - GLB wide.

I was proud of the season 6 sim! I liked the idea that if I didn't stop your run, the game was over....it made it real!

Now it seems that 1 powerback can roll up 25-50 broken tackles in a day and you have no AI that can stop that.
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Romeorr
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Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco
Wow - I'm officially convinced that the Vaqueros are not an EQUALLY MATCHED team than those teams they lost to. Thank you for making my point stronger.

In the NFL or college, if you want to get REAL - and let's put the Vaqueros aside as I don't want to step on any toes, it is commonly known that to stop a running game and force your opponent to throw the ball effectively places the odds to win the game in your favor. That was season 6 sim. Enter season 7 - I now have a back at 97 strength that breaks 23 tackles against a better team and we lose....what the fugg!

Elvis had 23 missed tackles today vs Lincoln.....we've never had that kind of bullshit ever in this game. I don't care how good your back is....no way he has 23 broken tackles against an equally matched defense. The running game sim sucks!

I'm now going to build my WR's to have 75 strength and 70 catching with 60 speed to break every tackle on their way to the end zone - too real ! Welcome to season 7.


Honestly your opinion doesnt matter to me if you think they are NOT equally matched. Point being is we made it to the pro's by playing sound D and good builds. However in season 6, we were missing more tackles than we had ever missed in a season. and our D couldnt stop the run with 25 guys in the box. Teams that we had beaten in season 4 and 5 were now beating us by 50pts. However as the season wore on, and bort slowly reeled in the changes he made at the beginning of the season, our play greatly improved. Which led me to believe it wasnt our builds but the sim that was messed up. Look at the running teams at the beginning of season 6 and at the end of season 6. you will see a dramatic drop off in their performance.
 
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and some more sims of equally matched teams

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=210665

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=210478

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=210175
 
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http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=290012294&confId=80

And this is supposed to be the PRO league - lmao

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=344423&pbp_id=1141149
 
HaplosDog
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Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco


http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=344423&pbp_id=1141149


To be honest, things like that sometimes happen in the NFL. Haven't you seen any Broncos games this season?

 
Greg B
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Originally posted by HaplosDog
Originally posted by Vegas_Bronco



http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=344423&pbp_id=1141149


To be honest, things like that sometimes happen in the NFL. Haven't you seen any Broncos games this season?



Or pretty much any Lions game
 
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Now c'mon damnit, I'm a broncos fan and that is a low blow - Broncos only missed 20 tackles, not 23!

Still it needs some work, Broncos, Lions...GLB....all the same!
Last edited Jan 2, 2009 00:18:27
 
DrewRyan
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SIM sucks this season... the running game is pathetic.. RBs that should be fast look slow. and these power backs are breaking a million tackles.. realistic huh?

people that want the SIMs to be like the NFL are retarded.. this is a MMORPG.... SIMs are as bad as ive ever seen
 
Romeorr
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Originally posted by DrewRyan
and these power backs are breaking a million tackles..


wouldnt this be in support of your mmorpg.
 
Greg B
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Originally posted by Romeorr
Originally posted by DrewRyan

and these power backs are breaking a million tackles..


wouldnt this be in support of your mmorpg.


Only if the Power Back was actually Chuck Norris round house kicking the defenders
 
Romeorr
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Originally posted by Greg Butler
Originally posted by Romeorr

Originally posted by DrewRyan


and these power backs are breaking a million tackles..


wouldnt this be in support of your mmorpg.


Only if the Power Back was actually Chuck Norris round house kicking the defenders


he isnt? sucks to be you then
 
Greg B
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Originally posted by Romeorr
Originally posted by Greg Butler

Originally posted by Romeorr


Originally posted by DrewRyan



and these power backs are breaking a million tackles..


wouldnt this be in support of your mmorpg.


Only if the Power Back was actually Chuck Norris round house kicking the defenders


he isnt? sucks to be you then


why? I would kick Chuck's ass
 
Romeorr
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sure you would


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIgey9NLdhk
 
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Yeah, I've noticed that the improved LB run coverage and the reduction in speed through the line has really put a damper on lot of RBs. I can't complain though because the changes have given my RB pretty gaudy numbers. I know it's just scrimmage games but he's gotten 343 yds on 35 rushes (9.8 avg), with 37 broken tackles and 9 TDs in just these two games. I'm sure my viewpoint will change when I have to find some way to stop another power back with my defense ;P.
 
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