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Originally posted by SteelersInsider

I think that argument is dead now from TSE.



It's not the same argument from my perspective. How many players PP has on his team doesn't have anything to do with me, nor does it affect the number of my players that I have on my team, that stays the same, and that is my personal preference to keep that number low, and that's what I still have. If I had 8 other agents on the team that also had 5 players on the team, or 4 with 10, or a very tiny number of agents in any combination, then I wouldn't have been as interested in the trade.

This was a very specialized trade that needed a very specialized trade partner. On the one hand I had to find a team that was willing to work around Manning's plan to leave the team in the near future for the Monkeys, and on the second hand I still had to find some value in return. PP was the perfect fit on both sides with having the extra players and value to afford to give up, and the willingness to take a possible short term run with Manning's star players.

I could have possibly gotten more out of it by trading him straight out and under the full 2 year contract with no promises that the new team would go to a 1 year deal, but despite all the BS that Manning pulled on me, I don't screw people over and I never will. This team is always going to be #1 in the game in terms of integrity of team management. Although I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least tempted for a split second to throw his players on the bench and let them rot, and I had multiple team members PM me saying they would support that decision. But contrary to how much of an a-hole Manning is for his deceit and his ploys, I'm still not going to screw up somebody's players that has put a lot of money into getting them to where they are. I know how much money he spends on the game considering he had 3 high level players to my one, and it just came down to I wasn't going to screw up all of his time and money invested into those players just because I despise the guy as a person and as a player.
 
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a TSE post I have respect for? I'm... amazed?
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by SteelersInsider


I think that argument is dead now from TSE.



It's not the same argument from my perspective. How many players PP has on his team doesn't have anything to do with me, nor does it affect the number of my players that I have on my team, that stays the same, and that is my personal preference to keep that number low, and that's what I still have. If I had 8 other agents on the team that also had 5 players on the team, or 4 with 10, or a very tiny number of agents in any combination, then I wouldn't have been as interested in the trade.

This was a very specialized trade that needed a very specialized trade partner. On the one hand I had to find a team that was willing to work around Manning's plan to leave the team in the near future for the Monkeys, and on the second hand I still had to find some value in return. PP was the perfect fit on both sides with having the extra players and value to afford to give up, and the willingness to take a possible short term run with Manning's star players.

I could have possibly gotten more out of it by trading him straight out and under the full 2 year contract with no promises that the new team would go to a 1 year deal, but despite all the BS that Manning pulled on me, I don't screw people over and I never will. This team is always going to be #1 in the game in terms of integrity of team management. Although I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least tempted for a split second to throw his players on the bench and let them rot, and I had multiple team members PM me saying they would support that decision. But contrary to how much of an a-hole Manning is for his deceit and his ploys, I'm still not going to screw up somebody's players that has put a lot of money into getting them to where they are. I know how much money he spends on the game considering he had 3 high level players to my one, and it just came down to I wasn't going to screw up all of his time and money invested into those players just because I despise the guy as a person and as a player.


Tried to take the high road but couldn't resist slinging mud on one of his most dedicated agents who has decided to move on.

/golfclap
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by SteelersInsider


I think that argument is dead now from TSE.



It's not the same argument from my perspective. How many players PP has on his team doesn't have anything to do with me, nor does it affect the number of my players that I have on my team, that stays the same, and that is my personal preference to keep that number low, and that's what I still have. If I had 8 other agents on the team that also had 5 players on the team, or 4 with 10, or a very tiny number of agents in any combination, then I wouldn't have been as interested in the trade.

This was a very specialized trade that needed a very specialized trade partner. On the one hand I had to find a team that was willing to work around Manning's plan to leave the team in the near future for the Monkeys, and on the second hand I still had to find some value in return. PP was the perfect fit on both sides with having the extra players and value to afford to give up, and the willingness to take a possible short term run with Manning's star players.

I could have possibly gotten more out of it by trading him straight out and under the full 2 year contract with no promises that the new team would go to a 1 year deal, but despite all the BS that Manning pulled on me, I don't screw people over and I never will. This team is always going to be #1 in the game in terms of integrity of team management. Although I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least tempted for a split second to throw his players on the bench and let them rot, and I had multiple team members PM me saying they would support that decision. But contrary to how much of an a-hole Manning is for his deceit and his ploys, I'm still not going to screw up somebody's players that has put a lot of money into getting them to where they are. I know how much money he spends on the game considering he had 3 high level players to my one, and it just came down to I wasn't going to screw up all of his time and money invested into those players just because I despise the guy as a person and as a player.


TSE, why start with the things in the 3rd paragraph? Manning is gone, the situation has passed but don't act like you are the victim. You told Manning you would let him go to the team he wanted to go to, then he chose the Monkeys and you went back on the deal and tried to trade him on the trade block. You ended up doing the right thing in the end but by no way was Manning in the wrong for being as mad as he was and you are NOT the victim here. Don't tell a guy you'll let him go to the team he picks if you don't intend to.(BTW I HAVE seen the PMs)

 
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BTW you are misinformed, you saw what Manning wanted you to see. So don't come in here and tell me not to say whatever the hell I want to say, because you have no class and no business to give me and instructions of any kind.
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
Originally posted by SteelersInsider


I think that argument is dead now from TSE.



It's not the same argument from my perspective. How many players PP has on his team doesn't have anything to do with me, nor does it affect the number of my players that I have on my team, that stays the same, and that is my personal preference to keep that number low, and that's what I still have. If I had 8 other agents on the team that also had 5 players on the team, or 4 with 10, or a very tiny number of agents in any combination, then I wouldn't have been as interested in the trade.

This was a very specialized trade that needed a very specialized trade partner. On the one hand I had to find a team that was willing to work around Manning's plan to leave the team in the near future for the Monkeys, and on the second hand I still had to find some value in return. PP was the perfect fit on both sides with having the extra players and value to afford to give up, and the willingness to take a possible short term run with Manning's star players.

I could have possibly gotten more out of it by trading him straight out and under the full 2 year contract with no promises that the new team would go to a 1 year deal, but despite all the BS that Manning pulled on me, I don't screw people over and I never will....


Hahahahaha, I had to stop reading here. Exactly what does "don't screw people over" mean to you? It's just 4 little words, none more than two syllables, but it's totally beyond your comprehnsion. Explains a lot. Awesome.

Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
BTW you are misinformed, you saw what Manning wanted you to see. So don't come in here and tell me not to say whatever the hell I want to say, because you have no class and no business to give me and instructions of any kind.


By all means, continue to "say whatever the hell (you) want to say," - anyone who knows anything also knows that "whatever you say" isn't worth the space it was typed on.
 
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TSE has been tried and convicted in the GLB court of Public opinion already, no matter how much back pedaling or damage control he tries at this time, IT'S OVER JONHNY.

Go back to being the "NiceHotRichGUY" we all know that you are.

How's the GM search going BTW? Were they deceitful also.

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The court of public opinion is nothing more than a function of your fabrication of lies and deceit Coachviking. I don't care about the opinions of any people that choose to base their conclusions on lies and deceit rather than facts or impartial inquiry. You have clearly proven yourself to be amongst the lowest and the most classless owners in all of GLB. Your actions have been more despicable than anything Flames ever even did.
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So...back to Green Bay staying under the radar....
 
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Originally posted by The Strategy Expert
The court of public opinion is nothing more than a function of your fabrication of lies and deceit Coachviking. I don't care about the opinions of any people that choose to base their conclusions on lies and deceit rather than facts or impartial inquiry. You have clearly proven yourself to be amongst the lowest and the most classless owners in all of GLB. Your actions have been more despicable than anything Flames ever even did.



MY actions What actions were those? Calling you out for lying to one of you players. Telling your GM's You lied to one of your players. Making fun of you for having the LAMEST AIM username in history.

Aside from calling you out what have I done wrong?

By the way the fact that you have me above flames on your list of "people that hurt you little feelings" is an honor. I know he worked his Butt off to get under your skin. It has been much easier for me.
 
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Originally posted by coachviking
GLB court of Public



I don't think the court cares about this situation anywhere near as much as TSE and CV. Or at all for that matter.
 
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And honestly, I already "knew" TSE a little. As much as you really "know" someone for seeing how they act on an internet forum. I didn't really "know" any of the Moneys at all, so they are the ones who come off bad in that Trading thread.

In my opinion of course.
 
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Originally posted by coachviking
Originally posted by The Strategy Expert

The court of public opinion is nothing more than a function of your fabrication of lies and deceit Coachviking. I don't care about the opinions of any people that choose to base their conclusions on lies and deceit rather than facts or impartial inquiry. You have clearly proven yourself to be amongst the lowest and the most classless owners in all of GLB. Your actions have been more despicable than anything Flames ever even did.



MY actions What actions were those? Calling you out for lying to one of you players. Telling your GM's You lied to one of your players. Making fun of you for having the LAMEST AIM username in history.

Aside from calling you out what have I done wrong?

By the way the fact that you have me above flames on your list of "people that hurt you little feelings" is an honor. I know he worked his Butt off to get under your skin. It has been much easier for me.


You called me out for lying to my player which I never did. How does this not make sense to you? And no you are not getting under my skin, I'm just picking up all the trash you keep throwing in my yard and then throwing it back at ya cause I don't want your garbage and I want everybody to know what you really stand for with your tactics and your words.
 
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Originally posted by The Duff Man
And honestly, I already "knew" TSE a little. As much as you really "know" someone for seeing how they act on an internet forum. I didn't really "know" any of the Moneys at all, so they are the ones who come off bad in that Trading thread.

In my opinion of course.


I take it you missed this thread?
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=1673784

I make 1 post with a couple lines about GMs who have an interest in a job.

And there is nothing but a dozen comments of garbage. So much for that being a forum to dicuss GM jobs with other players.

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