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A lot more are getting there, though(my G will at 34). The better Gs accomidate for it, and more people are getting there.

Originally posted by tautology
Examples of high strength NT and DT on the job:

From the League Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=287806&pbp_id=13459874
(they only ran a couple times...for "some reason." )



From the Conference Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12852716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12853833
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855061
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855479
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855812

(nice example of breakthrough on that last one)

All equipment is in strength for the DTs and NTs in these examples.

YMMV, of course.

that's the $#!T

Originally posted by dusk2k3
Originally posted by UMRocks

Originally posted by jmikles


Originally posted by dusk2k3



so if I was going with equipment on a NT, would it make more sense to use it on agility?

Yes.

I disagree if you're playing NT. Yes putting it on agility will make "you" better, but a NT with a ton of strength, while not pushing the O-line back, will create 1on1 matchups for the rest of your d-line. Thats always what I thought the NT was for in GLB, but it really depends on your system i guess.

Note: 3-4 NT i'd go strength regardless (its really a thankless position)

My DT has been rolling with over 90 str for most of the season. From all the plays that I've see, my NT is constantly being double teamed and it hasn't helped my team a bit. I get taken out of the play and because our DT is strength based as well, the offense is able to block him.

Your statement here does not address the fact that any OL I go against is probably going to have the same str that I have. Other than holding my ground and getting blocked anyway, how does this help our team stop the run?

Well, you fail by also having a high strength DT. If you have a NT that commands two blockers and a really fast blitzing ROLB... Then you potentially open up a lot of room for a high agility/speed NT to get into the backfield.

Also: Guards and Centers won't exactly need 70+ speed/agility to stop DT/NT with 80+ agility. Think of it the same way that CBs don't need 100+ speed to stop 100+ speed CBs.

I have a lvl 24 DT

w/equip w/o equip
Strength:77 Strength:62
Speed:50 Speed:50
Agility:64 Agility:59

I want stats this year, I'm playing in a BBB league, I played AA last season. I want to move equip in agility but how much strength should I keep?

Originally posted by totallymadmar
I have a lvl 24 DT

w/equip w/o equip
Strength:77 Strength:62
Speed:50 Speed:50
Agility:64 Agility:59

I want stats this year, I'm playing in a BBB league, I played AA last season. I want to move equip in agility but how much strength should I keep?

None.

You're good at 62 for now but would get it to 68,later.

Originally posted by betterhands
Originally posted by tautology

Examples of high strength NT and DT on the job:

From the League Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=287806&pbp_id=13459874
(they only ran a couple times...for "some reason." )



From the Conference Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12852716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12853833
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855061
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855479
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855812

(nice example of breakthrough on that last one)

All equipment is in strength for the DTs and NTs in these examples.

YMMV, of course.

that's the $#!T

+1 lovin your 63 on the Pass Rush bars with the DT/NTs .....

Originally posted by oaklandraider
Originally posted by betterhands

Originally posted by tautology


Examples of high strength NT and DT on the job:

From the League Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=287806&pbp_id=13459874
(they only ran a couple times...for "some reason." )



From the Conference Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12852716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12853833
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855061
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855479
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855812

(nice example of breakthrough on that last one)

All equipment is in strength for the DTs and NTs in these examples.

YMMV, of course.

that's the $#!T

+1 lovin your 63 on the Pass Rush bars with the DT/NTs .....

How do you know that's the Breakthrough SA in action? What if it's just a mundane example of getting off a block, or the OL failing their hold block check?

Originally posted by michoool123
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Most G/C's between 30-40 dont even got second capped agi though, while the DTs are pumping it 80+ with atleast 50 speed to go with.


Mine are 3rd capped

Originally posted by fallingmercury
Originally posted by oaklandraider

Originally posted by betterhands


Originally posted by tautology



Examples of high strength NT and DT on the job:

From the League Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=287806&pbp_id=13459874
(they only ran a couple times...for "some reason." )



From the Conference Championship:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12852716
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12853833
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855061
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855479
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=286729&pbp_id=12855812

(nice example of breakthrough on that last one)

All equipment is in strength for the DTs and NTs in these examples.

YMMV, of course.

that's the $#!T

+1 lovin your 63 on the Pass Rush bars with the DT/NTs .....

How do you know that's the Breakthrough SA in action? What if it's just a mundane example of getting off a block, or the OL failing their hold block check?

youll know this season with all the changes bort is making

You won't. Only the RB and Hitting SAs are being shown now.

Just a quick update, my (102 agi/72 str) DT's biggest issue in the first scrimmage was the OTs being moved back off the LOS. I had to shed block on the LG and LOT every play.

For a comparison, I had 9 tackles/6 sacks against this team last season as our second to last scrimmage and I had 4 tackles/0 sacks this season.

Curious what people think Bort's changes (specifcally the increase in chances of pancaking the blocker when breaking a block) will have on STR based DT builds?

Originally posted by Motiak
Just a quick update, my (102 agi/72 str) DT's biggest issue in the first scrimmage was the OTs being moved back off the LOS. I had to shed block on the LG and LOT every play.

For a comparison, I had 9 tackles/6 sacks against this team last season as our second to last scrimmage and I had 4 tackles/0 sacks this season.

When Bort listed his changes, my first reaction was that this was the biggest in terms of affect on the D-line's pass rush...

Edit:
Looking at the plays, I'd still say your DT had some good moments:

Have to believe that your DT did affect this pass a bit:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=347542&pbp_id=33157

Nice shed block:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=347542&pbp_id=33802

Looks like you pancaked the LG when you shed his block here:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=347542&pbp_id=33525

And that is from looking at only some of the plays in the first quarter...

Originally posted by merk
Looks like you pancaked the LG when you shed his block here:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=347542&pbp_id=33525


That wasn't a pancake for the DT, that was a perfectly executed block by the LG that opened a gaping hole for a big gain. The LG didn't need to keep moving when they disengaged as the play was way downfield already.