Warrior General Games

Originally posted by DennisValet
Originally posted by mogs01gt
Originally posted by hiimjake
Is it even really possible? Do strength/big hit/monster hit actually work well enough to make them really worthwhile? Any SS out there who force a lot of fumbles because of them? Or kill guys coming over the middle a lot? I know most WRs ignore strength so it seems like it should work, but for those of you who have tried it, does it?The bottom line is dumping points into strength and tackling that are needed in Speed, agility and vision is counter productive on what an SS needs to be. SS's are not there to cause fumbles. I wouldnt dump much into those SA's other than wrap up. I have noticed on my SS, the big hit SA has only happened a few times.Now that I can see big hit and monster hit I have noticed my Safety getting big hit/monster hit on roughly 1/3 of his tackles- and that's with only 5 points invested in each. I get a lot of "deflections" after the receiver has seemingly gotten control of the ball, and I don't miss tackles while set to "somewhere in the middle" tackling

I think having a 80 speed SS is fairly over rated. Strong safeties are much different from free safeties. You get thrown in the box to stop the run, you need to effectively tackle power backs without getting trucked.
I like this advice and would follow such advice from the poster above me.

I actually see Big hit and monster hit come up fairly often with my SS. My question is: does confidence have any kind of effect on forced fumbles here?

Originally posted by redwards
I actually see Big hit and monster hit come up fairly often with my SS. My question is: does confidence have any kind of effect on forced fumbles here?

I'm 100% sure it have

Originally posted by redwards
I actually see Big hit and monster hit come up fairly often with my SS. My question is: does confidence have any kind of effect on forced fumbles here?

43 SS, Africa Pro:
50 str/tak
35 conf
11% Force Fumble AEQ
All 3's in tackling tree
between 10 and 15 in Sure Tackler (re-distributed more after a bad game)

*** First two games on balanced tackling***
4 tackles 8 misses
1 Big Hit logged 0 Monster

***Last game on wrap-up***
5 tackles 0 misses
3 Monster Hits

First, about tackling settings, obviously I have no right to be any higher than wrap up yet with my piss poor performance. I'm probably dumping the %force fumble junk for Monster Hit gear now that it "improves tackle quality". The goal is to get to a point where I can state with all certainty that I can play on balanced tackle with minimal risk.

I've wondered why no matter what tackling setting I use, that I've never forced a single fumble. The last season I consistently forced fumbles was season 3, a time when my pathetically mediocre confidence was more reasonable for my level. But so much has changed since then I have no idea if that's the factor that's been missing since then.

On all of my players, the only one I've ever spent a point on confidence is the kicker. I tend to prioritize it lower than just about any stat and usually do vis/conf or conf/sta combos way late in the player's development. Maybe I'm paying the price now.

In the last scrimmage my team had, I switched to Hard hitting and so that 3 of my 7 tackles were Monster hits. This is with 2 in monster hits as well.

I'm attempting to build one, and yes it seems that it wont be possible until lv 45 or so lol

Originally posted by mouldsie
I'm attempting to build one, and yes it seems that it wont be possible until lv 45 or so lol

Yep, I wanted to make my FS a hard hitter around level 25, but kept realizing that I needed more vision, then more agility, then more speed, then I needed jumping more than strength. Anyways, I decided it would be better to just make him fast with great vision. Not quite Ed Reed, but he gets great breaks on the ball.