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Why don't we just all watch this video.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hcc1QvM2Q

It will make it all better.

Originally posted by Daedalus Finch
Originally posted by dmfmt

I hope it a good game and may the best team wins. However, i know if we able to win, it will be labeled that we won because we cheated.

Even if agent has multiple accounts, he still has to build the player. The builds of all the players plus the defensive/offensive AI will determined the outcome of the game. I don't think having multiple accounts makes those players superior/better than other players.

For the record, you don't have to eat your hat and drop it forever. Like one of the guys said, this is only a fantasy game. I'm not saying what you should and not do. You spend you money like me and you have every right to express your opinions and thoughts.
You can build your players to compliment each other. You can do that already, but there's a premium because you have to pay extra for each player. You can also sign them all for dirt cheap, as all of your players are. Further, you don't have to deal with potential personality conflicts. That sure makes things easier.

So, you gonna let me see your forum?

Uh, one problem with this statement. How can he afford EQ updates for his "illegal" players if he signs them to dirt cheap contracts? If I had a fleet of fake SN's, I'd make sure that I payed my guys well so that I could afford EQ and advanced EQ.

Originally posted by Daedalus Finch
Originally posted by dmfmt

It obvious that you have issues and I don't see how seeing my forum will solve those issues. So the answer is no.

How is it that their players are better than everyone's players? Are they cheating Bort or do their cheating allows to perform better in the games?

I'm sorry Finch, but I no longer have desire to respond back and forth with you concerning this matter. Let's entertain the fan for the game and the may the best team win.

Hopefully, next season the Q Dupes will not be an issue for you and your team.
I explained how it would solve the issues. If I saw people on your team were actually making posts, then I would believe they were different people. I don't think someone would commit to signing in on all those players just to post fake posts.

The players aren't better than everyone else's players. They can all be built toward a common goal/style of playing, however. And they can be signed for rock-bottom salaries. And there won't be any personality/playing time conflicts.

You're evading the issue in the name of "entertaining the fan", which, I hate to break it to you, isn't real.

You do get a very real edge, here. And you're cheating the system. The player(s) on your team isn't (aren't) playing by the rules which bind us. That IS cheating.

Another hole in your though process. Not everybody posts in forums. So, if you see only a few ppl posting in a forum, are u just gonna think that they have multiple accounts? I know of many players that only check the forum for tactics updates, and that's IT. I have no problem with that.

Originally posted by Mikiesdaman
Why don't we just all watch this video.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1hcc1QvM2Q

It will make it all better.

Haha, lol! I hate u... (not really, I don't even know u )

yeah finch. I can admit when my team gets raped, but big bad buffalo gets the shit kicked out of then and you think you improved?!?!? That's a joke. Hopefully you get promoted so we don't have to listen to your Bitching, but then again with your shit team I guess we will be seeing you in the 12 for awhile

Originally posted by salizy13
yeah finch. I can admit when my team gets raped, but big bad buffalo gets the shit kicked out of then and you think you improved?!?!? That's a joke. Hopefully you get promoted so we don't have to listen to your Bitching, but then again with your shit team I guess we will be seeing you in the 12 for awhile

Hahahahahahahaha, now ur just being a dick That's alright, he deserves some of it

Originally posted by salizy13
yeah finch. I can admit when my team gets raped, but big bad buffalo gets the shit kicked out of then and you think you improved?!?!? That's a joke. Hopefully you get promoted so we don't have to listen to your Bitching, but then again with your shit team I guess we will be seeing you in the 12 for awhile
Where did I not admit that we got beat badly? Never once did I say this was an excuse for losing.

Again, I don't know why facts make you guys so angry. Why does someone pointing out that someone else is cheating make you so furious?

Originally posted by Daedalus Finch
Originally posted by salizy13

yeah finch. I can admit when my team gets raped, but big bad buffalo gets the shit kicked out of then and you think you improved?!?!? That's a joke. Hopefully you get promoted so we don't have to listen to your Bitching, but then again with your shit team I guess we will be seeing you in the 12 for awhile
Where did I not admit that we got beat badly? Never once did I say this was an excuse for losing.

Again, I don't know why facts make you guys so angry. Why does someone pointing out that someone else is cheating make you so furious?

because you have no evidence he is, just theories

Originally posted by salizy13
Originally posted by Daedalus Finch

Originally posted by salizy13


yeah finch. I can admit when my team gets raped, but big bad buffalo gets the shit kicked out of then and you think you improved?!?!? That's a joke. Hopefully you get promoted so we don't have to listen to your Bitching, but then again with your shit team I guess we will be seeing you in the 12 for awhile
Where did I not admit that we got beat badly? Never once did I say this was an excuse for losing.

Again, I don't know why facts make you guys so angry. Why does someone pointing out that someone else is cheating make you so furious?

because you have no evidence he is, just theories

+1, salizy's got his shit 2gether on this 1

Originally posted by Daedalus Finch


The players aren't better than everyone else's players. They can all be built toward a common goal/style of playing, however. And they can be signed for rock-bottom salaries. And there won't be any personality/playing time conflicts.




Is that not what just about everyone who owns a team does?? Look at my team (the Vulcans). Even when I was the GM and now as the owner, I typically offer long-term minimum salaries that the agents understand is to work toward the stadium improvements. Early sacrifice in order to reap the benefits later.

There are several agents on the team that own quite a few players and complement one another. That is how things are done in GLB.

We were the first of the top teams to drop to the Q-Dawgs. Dmfmt said then that the agents had told him that they were family and friends and why should he not believe them?? My brother, his son and one of my best friends all play this game and we own close to 150 players between us and heavily populate at least 3 different teams. There is no cheating there -- probably just supporting a lot of the "free" players.

Whether your players are cheating or not, all you can do is ask support to look in to it and let their decision rule. If they see nothing wrong let it drop - -it is not our call, it is theirs.

And before you start looking into my team, I have PMed Thorn myself to look into anything that I felt could look suspicious about my own team -- so we would not have to put up with this if we were to be on top.

Dmfmt, I do believe you had no idea. And I suspect this will follow you up to A#6 as both of you get promoted. Luckily, that leaves the Vulcans here.

Dear most people on this thread,

Stuff your high-minded weak-stool attempts at taking the innocent-until-proven-guilty high road. You're just not trying.

Yours,
Daedalus Finch

At this point, I doubt the mods are going to look into it. Why make rules if you're not going to enforce them?

Originally posted by danpenc918
Dmfmt, I do believe you had no idea. And I suspect this will follow you up to A#6 as both of you get promoted. Luckily, that leaves the Vulcans here.

Really? You really don't think you'd notice something was up if you were signing these agents (just to cull a few from the list):
dan512
PHILA512
doyle512

dan1221
PHILA1221
doyle1221

doyle629
dan629

dan123
PHILA123

doyle4381

I have to admit I was in the thread when he first noticed this and it seems like a legit complaint..

First danpenc you said that you and your family have approx 150 players between you that is an easy way to build a team toward one goal. but do the three of you have similar names? like danpenc124 and danpenc134?? that just isn't logical especially when there are over 10 with names that are far to close... The biggest advantage that this person (if it is infact one person) is that it is much much cheaper for this person to play and field a team. I honestly dont believe that his actual game play stratagy is going to be anymore effective than anyone elses. but as a paying member of this site I am bothered that (if it is infact one person) they are allowed to get away with it...

As for cheating that effects the outcome of the game ahhh I dont really agree that its that serious...

Originally posted by onetime
I have to admit I was in the thread when he first noticed this and it seems like a legit complaint..

First danpenc you said that you and your family have approx 150 players between you that is an easy way to build a team toward one goal. but do the three of you have similar names? like danpenc124 and danpenc134?? that just isn't logical especially when there are over 10 with names that are far to close... The biggest advantage that this person (if it is infact one person) is that it is much much cheaper for this person to play and field a team. I honestly dont believe that his actual game play stratagy is going to be anymore effective than anyone elses. but as a paying member of this site I am bothered that (if it is infact one person) they are allowed to get away with it...

As for cheating that effects the outcome of the game ahhh I dont really agree that its that serious...

Even Finch's biggest advocate thus far agrees that even IF it's true, it's not that big of a difference. And Finch, don't say that THAT is the difference between them winning and losing, because they clearly shelled you and everyone else by 40 points, lol! Therefore, even if there is cheating involved, they'd still be the #1 team without it. That's just following Finch's advocate's train of thought.

Also, if they all have the same last name, that explains the repeats on Doyle, and clearly if they're family then they all live in Philly. I admit it LOOKS shady, but when you automatically condemn people and publicly call them cheaters and "bastards," well my friend, that's libel. And that's extremely unnecessary. Let the admins do their job and be glad you didn't lose by 100.

I'm not your friend, and it's not libel. You're looking for the term "false light", and there's nothing wrong with that, even if it was a false-light situation.

Your explanation fails Occams razor hard. That's a TON of concessions. The argument doesn't even cover all the bases. "I'd like you to meet the Dan family." Really? "Oh yeah, and they share numerical designators with their neighbors the Doyles and the Philas."

Never once did I say the dupes were a better team than my team because of their duping, so don't put words into my mouth.

As I've stated all along, my problem is that they are getting free flex points and breaking the rules to do so, giving them an unfair advantage over me. I'm playing by the rules, so I get screwed. And so do you. And so does everyone else here who follows the rules.

Everyone in the East who had a playoff seed of 2, 3, 5, or 9 should be pissed. The number one team is full of accounts that should have been banned--the punishment for dupes--which meant the team, by most rights, should have missed the playoffs. The dupes on the Q Dawgs cost you several million dollars in home-game revenue.

They wouldn't be the number one team without this. Most, if not all, of the team consists of dupe accounts. They couldn't have afforded nearly that caliber of talent from the free agent pool. They sat under 200,000 for a good part of the season WITH almost all the players playing for minimum salary.