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kenyon1977
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the next post from Randy will probably be,

"I don't know why I even try, blah blah blah"

Randy, sell your team and start at the bottom somewhere if you're getting bored beating the shit out of teams in the same league over and over again.

Better yet have a losing season and then try to figure out how to fix your team, it will give you plenty to do.
 
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Originally posted by nthomas
For the record, and so I don't have to kiss even the skinniest part of Kenyon's fat ass, I am just looking to get all the CPU teams, and those who want to leave, out of EE Pro. If that happens, there are a ton of good teams in AAA who are willing to jump in.

If you are a team who is struggling, but still working, having fun, and wants to stay at this level, then that is fine imo, for what that is worth. Teams in the pros at the present deserve to be here as long as you stay out of the last 2 spots, and your team WANTS to be here.


the skinniest part of my fat ass has a Woodstock tattoo, just BTW
 
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Getting rid of elite teams is NOT the answer. That just makes EE Pro look even worse.

The low tier teams are getting stomped by not only the elite teams, but the guys in between. You lost to the GLB Gods, AND Greek Fire. Teams in the middle can rise up over Prague or LRC or Percival or SGA. We did it this year, almost to LRC and Prague.

Fact is your team can't keep up and your ass is getting chapped. If you can't at least respect Randy's efforts, whether you like them or not, then get the hell out.
 
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Umm thats the kind of just completely unreal crap that Im talking about,

Your team sucks .. you dont even know it .. your builds, horrible .. you dont know it


Here, your team lost to a team that had like 30s in chem at the time and half a roster
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=212899

Opponent that you outlevel and that the opponent has like 80% an inactive roster since last season? Nope cant do it, still lost
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=212953


Team that didnt even try all season, was messing around every week and lost most of their games badly, yall still lost by 2 TDs
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=212947

Yall beat 3 CPU teams .. and some insane upset against Budapest .. otherwise you lost every single game. EVERY .. you had 1 win against a human team .. its not like Im even talking about close losses by 1TD where it could have went either way ..

-Dubai - Clear issues this year, but still competitive, you lost by 18
-EEORG - Playoff caliber team and solid, you lost by 35
-Vaadwaur - Also playoff team and solid, you lost by 27
-Dogdandy - A team that seemed to lose heart this season and lost their last 4 of 6, you ONLY lost by 11, but it was against the 7th place playoff team
-GLB Gods - Mentioned, 13th place, 30 chem across the board, half a roster you lost by 15
-Chernobyl - a team that surged in the playoffs and showed they could compete with anyone, at least before all their talent left, you lost by 52 maybe you missed it you lost by 52 to the 8th seed
-Prague - you lost 70-0 with 109 yards of offense, the Croatian Sensations a CPU team at least scored
-Demoniak - a team that screwed around all season and could have cared less still beat your team by 14
-Stalingrad - beat yall by 52 .. 52! thats no where near competitive half a hundred
-Greek - a team that I think should also be demoted to rebuild because I just dont see it happening, I dont see bignrich out there getting the dozens of recruits he needs like Rezlov is .. yall STILL lost .. to a team that also didnt seem to care much this season and had most of their roster inactive, but hey! you were competitive with the 11th seed
-LRC - another playoff team as an opponent another 5TD loss
-Percival - oops another playoff team another 5 TD loss .. seeing a pattern?

Now .. where are your facts that I am some big evil meanie? Those are the facts in black and white, your team isnt competitive and EE Pro would be better off if you were demoted. As I have repeatedly said, the levels are there, the builds and tactics are WAY off .. builds particularly are very questionable for their level and I suspect there are people with 8+ in several SAs and equipment in more than 2-3 concentrated areas ..

So if you want to call me out when Im trying to improve our league .. maybe instead of arguing with your gut you should argue with your brain.
 
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Originally posted by kenyon1977
Originally posted by nthomas

For the record, and so I don't have to kiss even the skinniest part of Kenyon's fat ass, I am just looking to get all the CPU teams, and those who want to leave, out of EE Pro. If that happens, there are a ton of good teams in AAA who are willing to jump in.

If you are a team who is struggling, but still working, having fun, and wants to stay at this level, then that is fine imo, for what that is worth. Teams in the pros at the present deserve to be here as long as you stay out of the last 2 spots, and your team WANTS to be here.


the skinniest part of my fat ass has a Woodstock tattoo, just BTW


WWWAAAYYYYY too much information for me!
 
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BTW Kenyon its not that I have anything personal against you, see you took it personal and tried to make it personal with me. Its about our league, I could care less about any of you, Im interested in whats good for EE Pro.

EE Pro is the flagship of the EE Region, the EE Region has reputation issues and it doesnt help that we have stubborn and dumb teams that suck and they wont quit. Your team was fixable when I started giving you a hard time about builds and the fact that you needed someone to come talk to you in Season 3 .. but now its the end of Season 6 and many of the builds are 2 seasons from being possibly .. POSSIBLY competitive with Pro caliber builds.

All I want is to have a competitive and respectable region, thats what Im trying to do here, its not for me, I could give a shit, hell if it was for me Id try to encourage Percival, SGA, LRC also to gut and then I get Zeta trophies every year and laugh at you all until you quit and cry. Instead, I am trying to attract talent, help teams that are worth my help, recruit, I am trying to put some effort into improving our region. But we have so many shortsighted owners that have made EE Pro so crappy over the seasons that our whole region is a mess.

The Krakow Cows gutted because of Bort .. because Bort refused to listen to me and Promote more teams the past two seasons and clean up our mess in the region. We have tons of teams gut each season because our league is a joke .. they want to play in competitive leagues where winning means something, but winning cant mean something when the best teams run over bad teams by 50-70 points.

That is the whole point of demoting non-competitive teams. It is to improve the fun for those in this league, to make it more interesting and attractive to play in our league, because you DONT know when you log in that Prague and Stalingrad are going to play for the Zeta trophy and then each season 2-3 Alpha playoff teams are going to gut. We want to keep it exciting so that they DONT gut .. they are excited to log on and see if they won.

There are going to be teams like Lowell, who just dont want to do what it takes to compete, they dont want to invest the time, or recruit a whole new group of players because they like their teammates .. I can dig that, but then instead of gutting, they should just be given the option to demote and ...

With a controllable system .. that we could self govern our region .. we could find a place for teams like Lowell so that they dont have to gut, we could tell them "hey stick it out and we demote you to AAA and you can have fun again" instead of "gut or suffer" that sucks and thats not what I want for any team.
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kenyon1977
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Randy you can kiss my ass man. You have no idea what was going on with my team this season, none, unless you have a multiple account and for some reason I have one of your players on my team. Someone as competitive as you I really wouldn't put it past you.

The win we had in the beginning of the season was before we had major changes with coaching staff and personnel. THen it went down hill form there. Band aid fixes didn't work of course and now we are on the right track.

I could really give a shit less about your facts in black in white. You crowning yourself as head dick in charge of an entire league in GLB is rediculous. Was there a vote I missed somewhere? Maybe the cause of teams leaving is your know-it-all ness that really rubs people the wrong way. Even if yoiu lose the championship you are still right there pointing out flaws in everyone's teams. You really do take the fun out of what is supposed to be a fun game.

I wonder why everyone quit talking shit and having fun in the forum? Probably because you'd be right there to try and correct what anyone was saying.

Fix tghe league, don't fix the league whatever you want to do with it but I'm not volunteering shit to move my team anywhere. Been here since season 1 and will still be here until we end up in the bottom two spots per Borts relagation rules, unless those change of course.

 
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Originally posted by kenyon1977
The win we had in the beginning of the season was before we had major changes with coaching staff and personnel. THen it went down hill form there. Band aid fixes didn't work of course and now we are on the right track.


Randy, before you start pointing fingers at an active team to be demoted, know the full situation of what's going on before we start trying to throw teams out.
 
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You will never have a league where every team is the same. Teams don't gut or quit because of the league being a joke. Far from it. I don't think many guys worry about what league their players are in. They all jsut want to start. They all want championship trophies. and believe me when the fame crap rolls out it will even be worse.

Guys don't just look at the league, they look at the forum and when guys look at the EE PRO forum now that's a joke. There are more active topics on team forums than in this mess.
 
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Originally posted by kenyon1977

Fix tghe league, don't fix the league whatever you want to do with it but I'm not volunteering shit to move my team anywhere. Been here since season 1 and will still be here until we end up in the bottom two spots per Borts relagation rules, unless those change of course.



I was empathizing with you until you made this statement. So if you repeat this year's season next year, you'll wish to stay in EEPro? That's selfish.

I don't know what you did in S5, but what I would do for a team in your position is that sense the players are there to attempt to turn it around, I'd take one season to get the gameplanning together. If S7 turns out like S6, I'd volunteer for demotion. Any honest person would do the same.
 
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Why is it a mess? Who adds good content? Oh why I do .. I try to add things .. have you ever done anything positive for the league? Why no you havent .. but yet you complain that its a mess ..

Thats the kind of person who stands in front of a burning house and says .. "that house is burning, there are children inside" and when asked "well why didnt you help them?" "Oh well I didnt start the fire!"

Seriously .. either do something positive or dont complain when someone tries to do positive things.

Im glad that the Misc came to EE Pro this season, they are dumb and funny and we needed that, because Im not that type .. other people got in on the act and had fun.

If something isnt the way you want it .. make it that way, or dont complain that it isnt that way.

Thats what Im doing around here right now.
 
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Originally posted by phthalatemagic

I was empathizing with you until you made this statement. So if you repeat this year's season next year, you'll wish to stay in EEPro? That's selfish.


Hes one of the selfish owners around here

Mike and Khayos are also stubborn and selfish like Kenyon as is Greenguy, in most any other Pro league outside of Africa Pro they would have been pressured out a long time ago by owners that want teams that actually are trying to win and not just content to be 3rd to last. Silesia was doing the same shit since Season 3 and finally sold this season, I am more than overjoyed.

You see dberner, Kazan was once a really good Alpha team, but well .. they have lost talent and GLB of S6 isnt GLB of S2, he isnt selfish, he doesnt want to do what it takes to be in a Pro league with Kazan and he has tried to get himself a trading partner to be demoted, THAT is helping the region.

 
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Originally posted by Randy03Texags
Why is it a mess? Who adds good content? Oh why I do .. I try to add things .. have you ever done anything positive for the league? Why no you havent .. but yet you complain that its a mess ..

Thats the kind of person who stands in front of a burning house and says .. "that house is burning, there are children inside" and when asked "well why didnt you help them?" "Oh well I didnt start the fire!"

Seriously .. either do something positive or dont complain when someone tries to do positive things.

Im glad that the Misc came to EE Pro this season, they are dumb and funny and we needed that, because Im not that type .. other people got in on the act and had fun.

If something isnt the way you want it .. make it that way, or dont complain that it isnt that way.

Thats what Im doing around here right now.


Who says what you are doing is positive for the league?!?!?!? It sounds like you are just a bully. Bully anyone around you that doesn't have a team as good as yours.

It isn't selfish to want to stay were I started. Do you see the Detriot Lions being demoted to the Arena League? Maybe that would have saved that league? Put the shitty teams together somewhere else as long as Randy doesn't have to watch them I guess.

And no I don't add shti to the forum. Why would I? Just to get pounced on by guys like you that feel the need to add corrections out the ass or really jsut take the fun out of it.
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kenyon1977
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Look at how you all treat Caponesgun because he took his team to another league, Jesus yeah that sounds like fun.
 
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Originally posted by kenyon1977
Look at how you all treat Caponesgun because he took his team to another league, Jesus yeah that sounds like fun.


He took it away because we had too many crappy teams in this league that wouldnt challenge him ..

Stubborn owners he dont want whats best for the league and only want some sort of "prestige" or something of having a "Pro" team and the partial resulting issue of Alpha gutting is what drove him away.

But yeah he catches shit because he abandoned ship rather than try to improve the league .. of course he was at least looking for what those of us are looking for who want to improve the league .. more competition.
 
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