Warrior General Games

Originally posted by secondeye
Originally posted by riccor25

I kind of see what you're saying, but come on... you had three picks and returned 2 for TDs. You can't exactly say you didn't get some breaks.

And i understand your need to defend your win, but I think I was also very careful to point many examples completely different than our game.

We lost IN PART because Tijuana suddenly started playing better and we suddenly started playing worse.. but primarily because I didn't put in a clock kill function when we went three scores late in the game. We kept passing, and suddenly we couldn't move the ball at all.

But my point is you didn't move the ball at all to begin with. If you take the 95, and 74 yard ints for TDs away you have 19 points which is on par with our last 3 meetings. Look I understand your need to justify your loss, but come on now...

If you'd just run the ball at all in the 4th quarter maybe you win, and if you just make sure your 2-3 best CBs are always covering the other team's best WRs maybe you win. We see these posts every year at playoff time. To completly ignore the 2 ints for TDs and only focus on Phil's fumble or a check down to a RB on an all out blitz is really weak.



piiyb i will I wasn't talking to you sorry.

Originally posted by riccor25
Originally posted by secondeye

Originally posted by riccor25


I kind of see what you're saying, but come on... you had three picks and returned 2 for TDs. You can't exactly say you didn't get some breaks.

And i understand your need to defend your win, but I think I was also very careful to point many examples completely different than our game.

We lost IN PART because Tijuana suddenly started playing better and we suddenly started playing worse.. but primarily because I didn't put in a clock kill function when we went three scores late in the game. We kept passing, and suddenly we couldn't move the ball at all.

But my point is you didn't move the ball at all to begin with. If you take the 95, and 74 yard ints for TDs away you have 19 points which is on par with our last 3 meetings. Look I understand your need to justify your loss, but come on now...

If you'd just run the ball at all in the 4th quarter maybe you win, and if you just make sure your 2-3 best CBs are always covering the other team's best WRs maybe you win. We see these posts every year at playoff time. To completly ignore the 2 ints for TDs and only focus on Phil's fumble or a check down to a RB on an all out blitz is really weak.



piiyb i will I wasn't talking to you sorry.

lol my bad. i didn't watch our game. i just saw how many missed tackles we had and how many rushing yards they had.

How dare you call my FS "low tackling"...

Originally posted by secondeye

There is such an added importance and disappointment when things go wrong in the playoffs versus regular season that realistically we have to question whether we're being over emotional about it.. but I have seen so many weird things and different type performances in the playoffs that I had to pose a question in the forums to bort that will probably never be answered and ask if there are playoff modifiers that change teams.

It's really a sour grapes approach to blame your loss on anyone other than yourself or give credit to the victor, but when those weird oddities happen, it just drives you nuts with wondering about the conspiracy factors and "what-ifs"


The real problem is, because it is a sim based game, it shouldn't happen like that. We had a much tighter game with them the first time around and the defence was no where near as close to their pass/rush percentage as it was this time. (We were 12% off being exactly right...)

Then coupled with the dodgy missed tackles... It just annoys me to have people put a lot of work in, get it right and then for us to get trashed. The players have very high tackling + strength, they shouldn't miss 5 tackles. I can see 2 or 3, but 5 is a lot and when it happens to more than 1 player it is a concern.

I didn't think we'd make it to the championship game, but I did think we'd actually be able to give them a game when we couldn't.

Originally posted by riccor25
Originally posted by secondeye

Originally posted by riccor25


I kind of see what you're saying, but come on... you had three picks and returned 2 for TDs. You can't exactly say you didn't get some breaks.

And i understand your need to defend your win, but I think I was also very careful to point many examples completely different than our game.

We lost IN PART because Tijuana suddenly started playing better and we suddenly started playing worse.. but primarily because I didn't put in a clock kill function when we went three scores late in the game. We kept passing, and suddenly we couldn't move the ball at all.

But my point is you didn't move the ball at all to begin with. If you take the 95, and 74 yard ints for TDs away you have 19 points which is on par with our last 3 meetings. Look I understand your need to justify your loss, but come on now...

If you'd just run the ball at all in the 4th quarter maybe you win, and if you just make sure your 2-3 best CBs are always covering the other team's best WRs maybe you win. We see these posts every year at playoff time. To completly ignore the 2 ints for TDs and only focus on Phil's fumble or a check down to a RB on an all out blitz is really weak.



piiyb i will I wasn't talking to you sorry.

But you're missing my point, so maybe the re-edit on the last one will help clarify it. I'm not saying we lost because of all that. I'm just saying it was a weird anomoly for Tijuana to come back and go 24-0 in the 4th.

All you're saying is true about our offense, but then in the same manner, you have to realize your offense wasn't doing anything against our defense either. You were not running well, you did not complete 50% of your passes.

Originally posted by HeadHunterTex
How dare you call my FS "low tackling"...

I apologize if I'm wrong, but I'd be surprised if I were. My FS has a higher tackle rating and has less than 40 in str/tackle.

the sim was changed and it f'd everything up. Bort needs to gift 1000 FP this Xmas.

Originally posted by HeadHunterTex
How dare you call my FS "low tackling"...

Have you seen your tackling attribute lately?

Originally posted by secondeye
Originally posted by riccor25

Originally posted by secondeye


Originally posted by riccor25



I kind of see what you're saying, but come on... you had three picks and returned 2 for TDs. You can't exactly say you didn't get some breaks.

And i understand your need to defend your win, but I think I was also very careful to point many examples completely different than our game.

We lost IN PART because Tijuana suddenly started playing better and we suddenly started playing worse.. but primarily because I didn't put in a clock kill function when we went three scores late in the game. We kept passing, and suddenly we couldn't move the ball at all.

But my point is you didn't move the ball at all to begin with. If you take the 95, and 74 yard ints for TDs away you have 19 points which is on par with our last 3 meetings. Look I understand your need to justify your loss, but come on now...

If you'd just run the ball at all in the 4th quarter maybe you win, and if you just make sure your 2-3 best CBs are always covering the other team's best WRs maybe you win. We see these posts every year at playoff time. To completly ignore the 2 ints for TDs and only focus on Phil's fumble or a check down to a RB on an all out blitz is really weak.



piiyb i will I wasn't talking to you sorry.

But you're missing my point, so maybe the re-edit on the last one will help clarify it. I'm not saying we lost because of all that. I'm just saying it was a weird anomoly for Tijuana to come back and go 24-0 in the 4th.

All you're saying is true about our offense, but then in the same manner, you have to realize your offense wasn't doing anything against our defense either. You were not running well, you did not complete 50% of your passes.

You know after looking at the boxscore and play by plays.. I'll stand by an assertion that Chan was playing better on offense than Tijuana up until the 4th. We had some turnovers, a sack, other than that we did move the ball.

Again, I can't stress it enough.. I'm not trying to say we lost because Bort has some weird modifier that won't let us win, and I said very clearly it was my own fault.. So please realize that, because this has turned a much different direction than I intended.

But I would be absolutely remiss if I didn't point out how many people experience these weird things and gripe about them.

If you want to insult me and say I do this every year in the playoffs, when in reality I just suck and the losses are my fault, then fine.. but to me that's just a defense mechanism because you feel I'm trying to strip your credit for the victory.. which is absolutely not the case. I am not trying to do that.

But if you can tell me you won that game more than I lost it, then we're also going to disagree on another thing.

I disagree that we weren't moving the ball. We had 3 good drives go into FG range in the first three quarters and got zero points out of them because of the 2 ints and a failed 4th down attempt (that was my fault).

Our games have been knock down drag out fights since season 4. It's always come down to something screwey, and sometimes it's been in favor of us, and sometimes it's been in favor of y'all.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=153318&pbp_id=5327118

I wasn't trying to insult you honestly. I wasn't refering to any of your previous posts. Every year since season 1 I have seen the general boards light up with, "omg there is a bug in the playoff sim." Bort has stated that there is no difference in the regular season sim and the playoff sim. Either he's lieing or whatever. I don't know.

I whole heartedly agree that you lost it with a couple poor choices. I was watching the sim thinking to myself, "why in the world is he trying to pass on almost every play." To me the weakness of TJ is the front seven minus Weezer, Rage, and Death Plow. You even threw a nice TD bomb on Buddy, but he got you back with a late int. I also didn't understand why you would ever not try to match up your best CBs with Sweetness exclusively, but we all have our different strategies. In the end though we made some good plays, and we made some really bad plays. I don't know what else to say. It is what it is as they say.

Originally posted by foobar
GG Mob.

You had our number this time.

AFTER REVIEWING THE P-B-P: WOW, what a game! it came down to the team that scored last won. I think if we had another 1 min of game time we would have won. You guys pulled out a CLUTCH drive at the 1:51 mark in the 4th quarter. Going for it on 4th and 10 and getting 17 yds -- very nice.


GG foobar. Naperville has always been tough on us. That was a hell of a game!

Originally posted by riccor25
I disagree that we weren't moving the ball. We had 3 good drives go into FG range in the first three quarters and got zero points out of them because of the 2 ints and a failed 4th down attempt (that was my fault).

Our games have been knock down drag out fights since season 4. It's always come down to something screwey, and sometimes it's been in favor of us, and sometimes it's been in favor of y'all.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=153318&pbp_id=5327118

I wasn't trying to insult you honestly. I wasn't refering to any of your previous posts. Every year since season 1 I have seen the general boards light up with, "omg there is a bug in the playoff sim." Bort has stated that there is no difference in the regular season sim and the playoff sim. Either he's lieing or whatever. I don't know.

I whole heartedly agree that you lost it with a couple poor choices. I was watching the sim thinking to myself, "why in the world is he trying to pass on almost every play." To me the weakness of TJ is the front seven minus Weezer, Rage, and Death Plow. You even threw a nice TD bomb on Buddy, but he got you back with a late int. I also didn't understand why you would ever not try to match up your best CBs with Sweetness exclusively, but we all have our different strategies. In the end though we made some good plays, and we made some really bad plays. I don't know what else to say. It is what it is as they say.

If we had shut you out in the 4th quarter, and maybe added to our lead, I'd be looking at that game saying "How the hell did we beat Tijuana by three touchdowns, and how the hell did a slow guy like Phil King score a 71 yard TD on Buddy Jackson?"

The reason for not matching up the CBs this time around, (i have done it in the past) was that in my previous experiences, forcing the "better" players to play more resulted in worse play as the game goes on.. Outside of our 5th CB, our CBs are built well, decent levels, but last I checked, every single one of them outside of Acker has less than 40 stamina, and even Acker is only 44. I have faith 1 to 4, but because I didn't want a LB or S on the 5th WR in a 5-wide set, I left in Adrain.. who usually only plays 20 plays due to being on ST and having really bad stamina.. and he played 58 plays, with big stretches.

I just wanted to show some faith this time around in my guys, and hope it worked better than me milking cows until they were dead in the field.

You're good people riccori, and I'm happy for you truly. You had the better team and I expected a loss.. It's just disappointing that I have myself to blame for blowing a big lead because of my crappy decisions.

If this game had turned out purely in our favor though, I'd still be having these conversations with the other guys about the weird goings-on. I don't really solidly believe in them, but I see it enough to question it.

Apparently it's a figment of imagination according to other people that say Bort has said there is no difference in the playoffs and regular season.

Good luck against NJ. You might need it seeing how well they played today. They've been kind of lost in the shuffle here.

Your LBs are plow and your CBs are a force. They kill the outside run, screens, and long ball the vast majority of the time. I'd be proud as hell of those guys.

If I had to wrap it all up in a summary as I head to work and enter my Hiatus of Shame of another failed season.. I'd say we lost some real quality guys, gouged the team's chemistry.. and were very close to winning our first conference championship despite being the only team with less than 100 chemistry. I guess I can't feel too bad about that..

Now if we get the shaft on promotion again, we're taking it out on everyone that's left.

See you in Season 7.

Originally posted by riccor25

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=153318&pbp_id=5327118



You're right that was screwy.

By the way, that RE chasing the QB in that play? He's coming home in S7.

All our guys will be on other teams next season.

Originally posted by piiyb_i_will
Originally posted by wulfgar61

Originally posted by piiyb_i_will


fucked up.

How so??? That you lost or was there something in particular you found annoying???

Not trying to dig so feel free to ignore, but I just don't understand the comment.

Wulf

just what pjsanford said. and i think this exact thing happened to us last season in the playoffs. not trying to downgrade your team's abilities like you seem to be accusing me of, but the tactics set and the missed tackles are something that's really fucked up with the sim

Nope I wasn't accusing you of anything. I just thought you had a specific gripe (which you did) that I didn't understand in your original post. I appreciate the clarification, but just cannot in good conscience discuss anything specifc while we are still in the playoffs.

Wulf