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LarryB
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Originally posted by LarryB

Oh. Well, if you're sure. I mean, cause you've obviously read the code that Bort doesn't share... with ANYONE. But no, you're right. He shared it with you. You know what confidence doesn't do.

But how about this. Let's interpolate what Bort has said regarding confidence. It has been said that confidence deals with your morale, how much you lose during the game when you mess up expressed as a reduction in stats similar to energy. Reduced stats means less Agility, Speed, Vision, Strength...

which control your RBs movement on the field....which affects a players ability to hit a hole, or make a cut.

My my.. this is how rumors start!



I changed the bolded so you can see where I said Bort did not tell me anything. That I am simply interpolating information gleamed from postings.

Originally posted by Viscount
Wow, is Bukowski the only one with any sense here?

LarryB, you're saying Bukowski doesn't know what confidence does, but how exactly do you know that it affects all of those things, has Bort shared anything with you?

Back to the topic, there are no attributes that affect HBs running out of bounds. Just think about it logically, repeatedly in every game in the NFL you see players run out of bounds if they're about to get hit.



Bort has not shared anything with me. He has expressed the affect of morale and energy on players attributes when making updates. Part of that was telling us that confidence affects morale (how much you lose and how fast) and stamina affects energy (how much you lose and how fast).

Now I know the average GLB agent can't accurately interpolate, but from previous discussions/debates with you, Viscount, I'd have to say you have the ability to assess the vague information presented to us and make it into something slightly more concrete.

If low morale affects (lowers) our stats, and confidence slows morale loss or prevents it, then I'm only using the transitive property to say that confidence prevents stat reduction.

You may want to read a little before you determine who has any "sense"
 
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Originally posted by Riggs_Inator

So I heard you like mudkips?


And yes, Confidence is worth training up especially if you carry a lot. All those big hits/growls ect add up after a while.


What are mudkips?
 
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Saying confidence makes your player run faster is like saying vision makes him run or catch better. Sure it helps, but not directly. It will never come into play if he doesn't get intimidated by LB's, TFL'd, or FFum'd. Speed, agility, and SA's determine how fast your player actually is.
 
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Just think about it logically, isn't it most likely that energy (stamina) only affects your physical attributes such as speed, strength, agility, jumping and possibly your football skills. Whereas morale (confidence) would more likely affect your mental attributes such as vision and your football skills. In real life your morale wouldn't effect you physically, just because you drop a pass it's not gonna effect your ability to run fast but it would effect the decision you make or the chances of you dropping another pass.
 
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Originally posted by Viscount
Just think about it logically, isn't it most likely that energy (stamina) only affects your physical attributes such as speed, strength, agility, jumping and possibly your football skills. Whereas morale (confidence) would more likely affect your mental attributes such as vision and your football skills. In real life your morale wouldn't effect you physically, just because you drop a pass it's not gonna effect your ability to run fast but it would effect the decision you make or the chances of you dropping another pass.


Unfortunately GLB doesn't usually reflect what is logical or realistic.
 
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Originally posted by taurran
Originally posted by Viscount

Just think about it logically, isn't it most likely that energy (stamina) only affects your physical attributes such as speed, strength, agility, jumping and possibly your football skills. Whereas morale (confidence) would more likely affect your mental attributes such as vision and your football skills. In real life your morale wouldn't effect you physically, just because you drop a pass it's not gonna effect your ability to run fast but it would effect the decision you make or the chances of you dropping another pass.


Unfortunately GLB doesn't usually reflect what is logical or realistic.


+1

Originally posted by taurran
Saying confidence makes your player run faster is like saying vision makes him run or catch better. Sure it helps, but not directly. It will never come into play if he doesn't get intimidated by LB's, TFL'd, or FFum'd. Speed, agility, and SA's determine how fast your player actually is.


I didn't say it makes you any better. Read my posts more thoroughly before you quote them, please. I said it prevents/lessens reductions to stats.
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Originally posted by Viscount
Just think about it logically, isn't it most likely that energy (stamina) only affects your physical attributes such as speed, strength, agility, jumping and possibly your football skills. Whereas morale (confidence) would more likely affect your mental attributes such as vision and your football skills. In real life your morale wouldn't effect you physically, just because you drop a pass it's not gonna effect your ability to run fast but it would effect the decision you make or the chances of you dropping another pass.


And morale most certainly affects your ability to move quickly or perform better in real life. When was the last time you worked out when you were bummed or not feeling it? You're more likely to not put up that last rep, or more likely to walk out the last lap instead of running.

Same logic holds that a player would be more likely to jog to the ball instead of sprint to the ball when making a gang tackle, or tuck and absorb the impact instead of spread out, take a bigger hit and reach for the extra few yards when running.
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Originally posted by LarryB
Originally posted by Bukowski

NO - it doesn't have to do with confidence.

Confidence does NOT control any of your RBs movement on the field, it only affects his In-Game Morale.

In-Game Morale does not affect a players ability to hit a hole, or make a cut. It doesn't have anything to do with anything like that.

This is how ridiculous rumors start, with people spreading blatantly false information.


Oh. Well, if you're sure. I mean, cause you've obviously read the code that Bort doesn't share... with ANYONE. But no, you're right. He shared it with you. You know what confidence doesn't do.

But how about this. Let's interpolate what Bort has said regarding confidence. It has been said that confidence deals with your morale, how much you lose during the game when you mess up expressed as a reduction in stats similar to energy. Reduced stats means less Agility, Speed, Vision, Strength...

which control your RBs movement on the field....which affects a players ability to hit a hole, or make a cut.

My my.. this is how rumors start!



What the fuck do you know about what makes a RB successful?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=137406

Your RB has NEVER averaged over 6 YPC.

But I bet he has high confidence, right?

Learn how to build your own RB, then maybe you can come in here and pretend like you have a fucking clue.
 
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by LarryB

Originally posted by Bukowski


NO - it doesn't have to do with confidence.

Confidence does NOT control any of your RBs movement on the field, it only affects his In-Game Morale.

In-Game Morale does not affect a players ability to hit a hole, or make a cut. It doesn't have anything to do with anything like that.

This is how ridiculous rumors start, with people spreading blatantly false information.


Oh. Well, if you're sure. I mean, cause you've obviously read the code that Bort doesn't share... with ANYONE. But no, you're right. He shared it with you. You know what confidence doesn't do.

But how about this. Let's interpolate what Bort has said regarding confidence. It has been said that confidence deals with your morale, how much you lose during the game when you mess up expressed as a reduction in stats similar to energy. Reduced stats means less Agility, Speed, Vision, Strength...

which control your RBs movement on the field....which affects a players ability to hit a hole, or make a cut.

My my.. this is how rumors start!



What the fuck do you know about what makes a RB successful?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=137406

Your RB has NEVER averaged over 6 YPC.

But I bet he has high confidence, right?

Learn how to build your own RB, then maybe you can come in here and pretend like you have a fucking clue.


Hey you want to flame me in front of two audiences? Cool, I can do that.

Hey, here's the thing big guy. I've let my first RB's build be dictated by my OCs, who needed a RB to serve their needs. Unfortunately for me, both teams have been pass first. So, my build focus has changed so many times I'm essentially cutting my losses with the first RB. Personal experience has never stopped someone from being able to give quality advice. When was the last time a star calibar football player went on to be a great coach? VERY rare. Most coaches were back-ups, and a few NEVER PLAYED PRO FOOTBAL!! Imagine that. I wonder how that affects their ability to coach?

The knowledge to give advice and the ability to put your own advice to use are two very separate things, and there is no better way to know what not to do than to fail. This is a problem that has caused idiots like you to discredit of some very good theories and practices in psychology and other areas. Just because I've "failed" with my first RB made in the last weeks of SEASON 1, when elusive was good, power didn't exist, and everyone thought you needed 41 stamina at level 20, doesn't mean I don't know how to make a quality character. I would think I'm doing something right whether in building or planning to earn a spot on a team in USA AA that is winning against AAA and Pro level competition with a legitimate shot at moving up for the second season in a row.

I started off as a low speed Power back, which failed (2.9 ypc) because speed won games and runblocking was broken. I changed him to speed, they fixed tackle breaking and run blocking, and his already high strength causes a large increase in breaks and ypc. I went back to strength. They made Agility more important, I had to get that to 55. Every season his ypc has gone up. And I think it's funny you use 6 as the bench mark for a running back. All I've ever heard is 4.

But you know, maybe you're right, I guess I need to live up to your standards before I can possibly understand anything about confidence and this game.

Oh wait. No. You're wrong. I don't need shit from you to validate my opinion. It is my opinion sprinkled with facts about things Bort has said regarding confidence. So have a big helping of go Fuck yourself and try using facts to debunk a theory rather than personal attacks.
 
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Also, you're dumb Bukowski. Did you bother to research your attack on me before you spouted ignorance? My level 11 HB, with 25 unspent SP, has the stat line that follows:


Season 6
G 7
Rush 122
Yds 855.5
Y/G 122.2
Y/Rush 7
TD 11
BrTk 30
TkdFL 0

If that is difficult for you to read and understand, it says You're Wrong about me not have an RB with more than 7 ypc.

See what I did there? I made a personal attack, and then provided evidence to support my attack.
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Originally posted by LarryB
Also, you're dumb Bukowski. Did you bother to research your attack on me before you spouted ignorance? My level 11 HB, with 25 unspent SP, has the stat line that follows:


Season G Rush Yds Y/G Y/Rush TD BrTk TkdFL
6 7 122 855.5 122.2 7 11 30

If that is difficult for you to read, it says "You're Dumb"

See what I did there? I made a personal attack, and then provided evidence to support my attack.


Wow.. A level 11 RB - that is impressive.

 
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Originally posted by Bukowski
Originally posted by LarryB

Also, you're dumb Bukowski. Did you bother to research your attack on me before you spouted ignorance? My level 11 HB, with 25 unspent SP, has the stat line that follows:


Season G Rush Yds Y/G Y/Rush TD BrTk TkdFL
6 7 122 855.5 122.2 7 11 30

If that is difficult for you to read, it says "You're Dumb"

See what I did there? I made a personal attack, and then provided evidence to support my attack.


Wow.. A level 11 RB - that is impressive.



Impressive? No. Am I putting my knowledge to use t correctly make a running back? Yes. Yes I am. Is your personal attack unfounded and ignorant? Yes. Yes it is. GFTO and don't come back until you have real facts and intelligent analysis to add to the conversation.

 
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Originally posted by LarryB
Originally posted by Bukowski

Originally posted by LarryB


Also, you're dumb Bukowski. Did you bother to research your attack on me before you spouted ignorance? My level 11 HB, with 25 unspent SP, has the stat line that follows:


Season G Rush Yds Y/G Y/Rush TD BrTk TkdFL
6 7 122 855.5 122.2 7 11 30

If that is difficult for you to read, it says "You're Dumb"

See what I did there? I made a personal attack, and then provided evidence to support my attack.


Wow.. A level 11 RB - that is impressive.



Impressive? No. Am I putting my knowledge to use t correctly make a running back? Yes. Yes I am. Is your personal attack unfounded and ignorant? Yes. Yes it is. GFTO and don't come back until you have real facts and intelligent analysis to add to the conversation.



He must have really high confidence.

Hopefully, one day, he can be as successful as your other RB.
 
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Let's get back on topic, I don't think confidence has any effect whatsover on players running out of bounds. I think that could be due to elusive running style.
 
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I actually think it was a ninja script change. It is itelligent, tactically and physically, to run out of bounds and stop the clock, and it didn't make sense that players would run down the sidelines and just get tackled instead of stepping out.

That whole confidence fight was more fun than an actual opinion.
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