Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Anebriated
granted there are other factors in play in these calculations but its about as close as I can make it while being lazy.

True, and looking at that preposterous number of catches allowed for me I feel the need to defend myself

Using gamescout, only 60 of my 94 tackles were on passing plays, minus 3 sacks = 57. So without even factoring in tackles on another defender's man, that's at at very most 3.56 complete per game.

Once again I appreciate your effort and respect your opinion, but CB's simply CANNOT be judged by stats.

I am a pretty good corner

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=137675

Originally posted by Anebriated
I cant argue with that. If I wanted to make a guide to the best jack-of-all-trades CB then I would follow the advice you give, thats now what I want though. I plan on taking my agility up to the first cap and then making sure my jumping vision are 40+ and then catching to 30+. After that yeah I will probably raise my agility further but I am only level 20 for now.

No you would follow your guide .

I would choose his way any day , with a little variation though

Speed 2nd cap
Agility soft cap
Vision soft cap
Agility 2nd cap
Vision 2nd cap
Jumping softcap
?????

Then you have a shutdown man , not by getting mid 30 vision and all that you say ....

Originally posted by San Diego Chargers

Once again I appreciate your effort and respect your opinion, but CB's simply CANNOT be judged by stats.

On top of that, judging a cb by how well he is doing at level 20 doesn't work. At level 20, players aren't even close to being complete.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Originally posted by San Diego Chargers


Once again I appreciate your effort and respect your opinion, but CB's simply CANNOT be judged by stats.

On top of that, judging a cb by how well he is doing at level 20 doesn't work. At level 20, players aren't even close to being complete.

This. It's a marathon, not a sprint. I'll be working on base atts. through my CBs' 5th season before I start touching SAs (well ok, I couldn't help myself and did dabble a bit.lol).

Please add my name to your list of CBs that have commented in your thread...either one will do.

Oh, and I would not follow the original poster's advice. He says agents are building average CBs. That's the pot calling the kettle black.

---You've put points into SAs too early.
---You should have speed/agility both at natural 60s before level 20
---Vision is low for a level 20

Iversen's advice is better.

Agility is crazy good for a corner. Possibly tied with speed for most important. Not really but close. then vision a close close third. First step and change direction are sure fire ways to never get beat. Because there are so many plays where the wide receiver looks like he is getting sent on a fly, then button hooks. You need the speed agility first step and change direction to jump back into position to defend. On slants agility is godly.

Originally posted by Robbnva
I am a pretty good corner

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=137675


he's one too: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=293232

but as someone stated before: stats are not useful when you're comparing CBs. the best CB is on the field a lot and has no stats whatsoever - besides tackles on pass plays that is...

you mean run plays

Speaking as a person that completely fucked up my original CB (Cleavon Backslash) in the first couple of seasons and, also, as a person that played on some not-very-good teams during that same timeframe; I can't think of any major stat that is overwhelmingly more important than the others(spd, agi, vis). I know many people will immediately think 'speed'. But, again, I completely hosed up Cleavon's training and was able to compete in some games- other games, Cleavon gave up a big score. But, the story was the same with other CB's that had way better builds.
For me, it doesn't matter how many times a CB is thrown at or how many tackles a CB makes in a season- as long as he rises to the challenges when they come; as often as they come. I haven't seen a burn-proof CB, yet. And, you can't control what an opposing team does. Some may scout your team and decide to go run heavy with extra emphasis on inside runs. Others may go with outside runs. While still others may want to pass- specifically at your CB.
Cleavon got thrown and ran at quite a lot last season. I can't possibly know why opposing OC's took so many shots at him. I'm sure one of the factors is that he was four levels lower than the other starting CB. There was nothing that I could do about that. All I could do was to try to build Cleavon to rise to the occasion.

I have 2 CBs with spd/agi fairly close to one another:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=253442
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=565264

I've found agi is what helps you make that play on the ball after it's thrown.

I've got a shutdown corner and I'm a mid to high level (31) so I'll give some advice and you can decide if you like it.

Speed is the most important stat for a corner, because speed recievers are all the rage. You need to be at 80 speed by my level. Agility comes second, get it at least to the soft cap.

Vision has to be soft capped, tackling can be ignored a little, just enough to tackle if a WR does manage to get a catch on you (30 tackle). Confidence, catching, and Jumping need to be in the 35-40 range so you can get some INTs. Always play tight, always play on aggressive. If your Safeties are worth a damn they will be there to cover your back on a miss.

For your SAs, couple of points in the Shutdown tree with an emphasis on Shutdown Corner (this is most important). Then you put a couple points into First Step and Change Direction.

Find yourself an Advanced equipment with the highest % value at Pass Deflection. I found a Deflect Ball Chance +5% and it is beastly.

Then shut WRs down.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=598949

Season 4 I was usually outleveled by 6-8 levels and still managed 6 INTs and 47 PDs.
Season 5 was a closure on the level gap and I managed 6 INTs and 34 PDs.
Season 6 I've finally caught up to most teams #1 WRs in level and I've got 6 INTs, 26 PDs, and 17 tackles after 6 games. That means I don't give up many passes, I get lots of turnovers, and I deflect a lot of passes. I'm where I want to be.

Order of importance:

Vision-speed-agility-jumping

Order of importance: Speed/ Agility/ Vision/ either Tackling or Jumping for 4th.

I'm not a person that's big on stats. But, Cleavon's numbers from last season:
Regular Season
16 games played
99 tkles, 6 MsTkls, 11 Ints, 4 IntTD, 63 PD's, 1 FFum

Playoffs
3 games played
12 tkls, 0 MsTkls, 2 Ints, ) IntTD, 3 PD's, 1 FFum