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tman24
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i still dance around way to much on elusive
 
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I switched to elusive after the first regular season game.. it seems fine to me.. here's a run from todays game.. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213830&pbp_id=4878976
 
kcdizz
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post your vision with your opinion
 
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48..
 
kcdizz
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my vision is 28 and he still dances around too much. but I have 5 sps i was contimplating using in vision or agility. This is without equiptment at level 19

Strength 21.94 (+0) +- Speed 60.94 (+0) +-
Agility 56.6 (+0) +- Jumping 13.6 (+0) +-
Mental Attributes
Stamina 23.6 (+0) +- Vision 28.05 (+0) +-
Confidence 21.94 (+0) +-
Football Skills
Blocking 13.6 (+0) +- Tackling 8 (+0) +-
Throwing 13.6 (+0) +- Catching 13.6 (+0) +-
Carrying 28.04 (+0) +- Kicking 8 (+0) +-
Punting 8 (+0) +-
 
King Henrik
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yeah so i played 1 game on elusive and i had by far my worst game of the season. stickin with combo
 
kcdizz
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Originally posted by King Henrik
yeah so i played 1 game on elusive and i had by far my worst game of the season. stickin with combo


whats the vision at?
 
LarryB
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Originally posted by King Henrik
yeah so i played 1 game on elusive and i had by far my worst game of the season. stickin with combo


Don't know your vision, like kcdizz said, but I'd have to say you played against one of the best teams in your division, aaaand your O-line got housed. Your FB got less than 3 ypc that game also. Seems like that was a defense built for speed, because your power back on that team had a great game.
 
boognish
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My second game on elusive was pretty bad, against very average opposition. Our team's power back is 6 levels lower than me, but had a much higher YPC average. I'm switching back to combo, a.s.a.p..
 
LarryB
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Originally posted by boognish
My second game on elusive was pretty bad, against very average opposition. Our team's power back is 6 levels lower than me, but had a much higher YPC average. I'm switching back to combo, a.s.a.p..


Yeah, next time you make a decision, be sure to research it more than just the numbers.

You had 7 rushes for less than 3.5 yards (ie, any 3 of these rushes added together would not equal a first down).

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213856&pbp_id=5523374
You got swallowed up by a linebacker before you even had the ball from the QB. No blocking at all. Combo running would have done diddly here.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213856&pbp_id=5520511
Tackled before you got the chance to juke. Might be vision (40 is a bit low for elusive), might be great tackling by the LB.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213856&pbp_id=5520247
Both LBs crashed the line, same run as before, hit before you juke. Seeing a pattern, 3 tackles... 3 LBs... maybe their LBs are well built?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213856&pbp_id=5518923
DE tackled you before you could register the juke on the SS. They crashed the line again.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213856&pbp_id=5520239
Are you sure you're running on elusive? You seem to be running right at these guys. That DT crushed you TE and FB... and you didn't sidestep him. They also had 9 in the box (And you got the first down!)

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=213856&pbp_id=5519723
Slowed after running over the blocked DE, and smacked up by the LB again.
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LarryB
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You team needs a better LT, and you need to stop running the ball against a 3-4 without a TE to block. You did well on the other runs, when you weren't against Pro level LBs by yourself.

YPC isn't everything (though it is alot). People seem to value my opinions here, but look at my YPC on Larry Brown. A measly 5.8 with 29 rushes. My consistency speaks for itself (hopefully) and I've been getting closer and closer to 6 ypc, but this year I'm running behind 3 fantastic RBs who all have over 6 ypc (we're like USC). I'm used in short yardage packages (under 3 yards to TD or first down usually). 1 TFL. Why? (besides only 29 carries?) Great O-line, Great OC. Decent build.
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tautology
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Originally posted by LarryB
Great O-line, Great OC. Decent build.


This formula will always yield results...frankly the HB build is just gravy.
 
skel1977
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Originally posted by LarryB


YPC isn't everything


Yes it is

 
LarryB
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Originally posted by skel1977
Originally posted by LarryB



YPC isn't everything


Yes it is



How you fit into your team's system is more important. I don't get alot of ypc because I'm used in short yardage plays (goal line, 3rd and 3s and so forth) I don't have the opportunity to get more than 4 yds or so per play.
 
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Originally posted by LarryB
Originally posted by skel1977

Originally posted by LarryB




YPC isn't everything


Yes it is



How you fit into your team's system is more important. I don't get alot of ypc because I'm used in short yardage plays (goal line, 3rd and 3s and so forth) I don't have the opportunity to get more than 4 yds or so per play.


But this is the first year that you're playing on that team..

What was your excuse for the rest of your career?

 
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