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Icy...get ready for spam hell...seriously, it's bullshit. Welcome to the slacker's club!

Originally posted by Rix2Sam
I joined Dinas in Season 2 so we had the pleasure of getting destroyed at your hands a couple of times before you moved up. Sorry to see you disbanding.

FWIW - if any Swords players are looking for homes I don't care if my players start or come off the pine on Dinas, so let me know if interested. We've got a good team, but we're realizing that everyon does in this league so we could use anyone who wants to stay in this league.

+1

Originally posted by Zickzack
Sad to see another team fold, but why must people come to this conclusion with the season underway, spoiling things for the rest of the league? Couldn't have made that decision a week ago?

1. We tried like hell this offseason to not have to do this.
2. A week ago and it still would've been too late for the reorganization or team swaps.
3. I wish we had beat the Mercs now.

A week or one and a half, i think you got the point. Fact is that any team folding at this point is spoiling some fun for all others, and it is not as if you guys were the first ones who'd go into a season without having a full squad at their disposal.

If you feel you have to quit that is infortunate, but i seriously question the timing. Espescially as you clearly have a competitive squad.

Sad to see the Swords go! They ruined Greenwood's perfect season a while back, and we were hoping for some payback at some point in the future ... good luck to you

Icy, do me a favor and PM me your AIM name. I'd love to actually talk with you rather than having this whole PM thing get slammed to death. If you woul rather not, I understand (I know Dublin is already talking with you), but I just figured real time discussion would be easier for both of us.

Good to see you taking care of your players until the end, though. Says a lot.

Originally posted by Zickzack
A week or one and a half, i think you got the point. Fact is that any team folding at this point is spoiling some fun for all others, and it is not as if you guys were the first ones who'd go into a season without having a full squad at their disposal.

If you feel you have to quit that is infortunate, but i seriously question the timing. Espescially as you clearly have a competitive squad.

Full squad's not it. Recruiting's part of it, but gameplanning is another. We had no one to game plan. Chargers01 did it one year, I did it one year, Starr did it 2 years, Icy did it 2 years, etc.

I agree that we have a competitive squad. I think if anyone had bothered to set tactics for either game this year, we would have won. However, we had no one willing to do that, Icy ended up having too much to do to continue, and the problem wouldn't solve itself.

Sorry that our timing wasn't the best. If we'd have done it a week earlier, you could have had a 255-0 win on your hands. I offer you my deepest condolences.

Originally posted by jdupuy3
Originally posted by Zickzack

A week or one and a half, i think you got the point. Fact is that any team folding at this point is spoiling some fun for all others, and it is not as if you guys were the first ones who'd go into a season without having a full squad at their disposal.

If you feel you have to quit that is infortunate, but i seriously question the timing. Espescially as you clearly have a competitive squad.

Full squad's not it. Recruiting's part of it, but gameplanning is another. We had no one to game plan. Chargers01 did it one year, I did it one year, Starr did it 2 years, Icy did it 2 years, etc.

I agree that we have a competitive squad. I think if anyone had bothered to set tactics for either game this year, we would have won. However, we had no one willing to do that, Icy ended up having too much to do to continue, and the problem wouldn't solve itself.

This sounds eerily familiar.

Yes, very sad.

My player is available, Montgomery Brogan. I want to stay in WEPL. I love it here.

WANT to start, so hit me up. PM's will suffice, AIM name is fortedanielforte

Signed to Multiple Scorgasms

If you seriously think I question the timing because I wanted to win 255-0 then you have not understood a thing. That would be like me claiming that you guys quit because you could not cope with losing your first two games.

Originally posted by Zickzack
If you seriously think I question the timing because I wanted to win 255-0 then you have not understood a thing. That would be like me claiming that you guys quit because you could not cope with losing your first two games.

We also lost the two first ones past year and kept playing hard to end being a playoff team, sitting in the top 4 until the last regular season game as we have been every season in the pros. We were also one of the richest teams in the WEPL with 100 Millions in the bank and full stadium. So it's not that we can't cope with bad results. I don't know how many times i need to repeat it for you to underestand it, but here are the reasons again.

- Some key players decided to not to renew their contracts in the last minute, just the day before the season started, ignoring my multiple PM's, leaving us with no way to replace them in time.

- Some key players decided that were not interested enough on the game right now and were not going to boost this season, it was also a last minute decision.

- Some key players were disgruntled with the team play style as their stats were not good looking enough, so they just decided to not to post anymore in the forums and talked a few times about wanting to leave the team, hurting our team forum chemistry.

- Due to those key players loses, i had to bring in 6 players that i own to the team, when it has been always against my team philosophy to have my own players in my own team.

- The forum activity reached almost zero due to most of the players tired of the game, when our forum used to be one of the most actives i have ever been, with a lot of threads started every day, and i have 20 players and have had them in like 30 different teams so i know what i'm talking about.

- My GM's were also burned out and stepped down (can't blame them after the huge work they have done every season) so i had to do it all by myself, scouting, recruiting and gameplanning, and i have a life outside GLB so after two games i also got burned out and decided it was not worth the effort and not fun at all to try to keep this team alive all by myself.

Is it clear enough now? At least i'm giving out my reasons and not just letting the team becoming CPU without notice as other owners have done in the WEPL. I have also made sure that all my team players had new contracts that end this season with huge money and millions in equipment funds before letting the team becoming CPU, so i think i have been a fair owner until the end.

Originally posted by Icy
Originally posted by Zickzack

If you seriously think I question the timing because I wanted to win 255-0 then you have not understood a thing. That would be like me claiming that you guys quit because you could not cope with losing your first two games.

We also lost the two first ones past year and kept playing hard to end being a playoff team, sitting in the top 4 until the last regular season game as we have been every season in the pros. We were also one of the richest teams in the WEPL with 100 Millions in the bank and full stadium. So it's not that we can't cope with bad results. I don't know how many times i need to repeat it for you to underestand it, but here are the reasons again.

- Some key players decided to not to renew their contracts in the last minute, just the day before the season started, ignoring my multiple PM's, leaving us with no way to replace them in time.

- Some key players decided that were not interested enough on the game right now and were not going to boost this season, it was also a last minute decision.

- Some key players were disgruntled with the team play style as their stats were not good looking enough, so they just decided to not to post anymore in the forums and talked a few times about wanting to leave the team, hurting our team forum chemistry.

- Due to those key players loses, i had to bring in 6 players that i own to the team, when it has been always against my team philosophy to have my own players in my own team.

- The forum activity reached almost zero due to most of the players tired of the game, when our forum used to be one of the most actives i have ever been, with a lot of threads started every day, and i have 20 players and have had them in like 30 different teams so i know what i'm talking about.

- My GM's were also burned out and stepped down (can't blame them after the huge work they have done every season) so i had to do it all by myself, scouting, recruiting and gameplanning, and i have a life outside GLB so after two games i also got burned out and decided it was not worth the effort and not fun at all to try to keep this team alive all by myself.

Is it clear enough now? At least i'm giving out my reasons and not just letting the team becoming CPU without notice as other owners have done in the WEPL. I have also made sure that all my team players had new contracts that end this season with huge money and millions in equipment funds before letting the team becoming CPU, so i think i have been a fair owner until the end.


Icy, I totally appreciate the experience you have been going through and your reasons for selling the team. It is getting more and more difficult to produce a strong team season after season and yes, due to the extra demands, Owners and GM's do get burned out.

All the best for the future

Originally posted by Icy
We also lost the two first ones past year and kept playing hard to end being a playoff team, sitting in the top 4 until the last regular season game as we have been every season in the pros. We were also one of the richest teams in the WEPL with 100 Millions in the bank and full stadium. So it's not that we can't cope with bad results. I don't know how many times i need to repeat it for you to underestand it, but here are the reasons again.
I hope you really understood what I was saying. I did by no means say or even think you could not cope with the losses, rather that was a mock response to jdupuy3 stating I was just annoyed for not being able to get a 255-0 win out of the game against Toledo.


Originally posted by
- Some key players decided to not to renew their contracts in the last minute, just the day before the season started, ignoring my multiple PM's, leaving us with no way to replace them in time.
Nothing most of us have not been through themselves though.

Originally posted by
- Some key players decided that were not interested enough on the game right now and were not going to boost this season, it was also a last minute decision.
Several teams have been successful in WEPL with almost 40% of their players not having boosted for several seasons. Again, this is nothing that most of us have not been through before.

Originally posted by
- Due to those key players loses, i had to bring in 6 players that i own to the team, when it has been always against my team philosophy to have my own players in my own team.
Sounds familiar as well. You bring in those players you own yourself and keep looking for replacements or owner swaps ... nothing out of the ordinary.

Originally posted by
- The forum activity reached almost zero due to most of the players tired of the game

- My GM's were also burned out and stepped down (can't blame them after the huge work they have done every season) so i had to do it all by myself, scouting, recruiting and gameplanning, and i have a life outside GLB so after two games i also got burned out and decided it was not worth the effort and not fun at all to try to keep this team alive all by myself.

And I have to ask again: those thing were not already apparent two weeks ago?

Believe me, I understand how much effort can be involved in running a team more or less by yourself, or with just one person to help. I never thought or indicated that you were a bad owner or that you did not do right by your players. And yes, at least you came out and stated that you'd quit, unlike cajik did with Porto. I don't say that you don't have valid reasons to quit. I still hate to see anther competitive team turn into a pushover during the season though, as that is spoiling fun for the rest of the league, unless they are into putting up meaningless stats against pushover opponents.

And let me ask you this, had you won against us, which certainly was a possibility, would you have quit as well? If so, would you have considered it fair that your actions likely would have affected relegation, the playoff race or playoff seeding?

So yes, you did alright by yourself and by your team. You did not do right by the league though, sorry, and nothing you might bring up as an argument will convince me otherwise unless it's real life issues pushing you out, which does not seem to be the case.

Icy, let's chat.

I hear you are a man who knows how to get things... like INTs...