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HATEMOBSTER
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Originally posted by Weykool
Your last two wins have been very impressive.
Your only problem is by luck of the draw you guys get a team that has allowed 38 points a game while RGB gets a team that has allowed 167 points a game.


They haven't met the Teabaggers yet

 
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Originally posted by Weykool
Other than RGB the only other team that could be considered would be Roswell.

The first rankings had them at #8 fighting for a playoff spot.
Not only did they make the playoffs but the secured a home playoff game by beating Chicago.

RGB was listed at #6 as a "Bottom playoff team".
We should end up with the #1 seed.
The only bad thing here is we will most likely play a redhot Roswell team looking to avenge their early season loss to us.

The most disappointing/underachieving team would have to be Chicago.
Listed all season as the #4 power of the league they were only able to squeak into the #6 seed.


You clearly don't understand what "MOST IMPROVED" means...or you don't get that it means most improved from last season. Just because you won 1 game that you thought you might not win DOES NOT MEAN thet you are the most improved team.

Chicago was 4-12 last season (12th place) and we finished this season 11-5 (5th place) and have our 1st playoff game in team history.

RGB was 10-6 last season. It's nice that you have a few more wins than you did last season but you didn't improve nearly as much as Chicago did. We went from the bottom 5 of the conference to the top 5.

Is there anyone who understands what "most improved" means that thinks they improved more than Chicago?
 
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Originally posted by sarge33rd
Has to be RGB:

#1 WR in the Conf in Yds and TDS
#8 AND #10 RBs in Yds
#5 AND #9 RBs in TDs
#3 player in sacks
#5 in Hurries
#4 AND #8 players in INTs (FTR, Myne with 10 INTs has returned 7 of those for TDs)
#10 player in FF (same guy who is #5 in hurries)

Now, do we lead the league in tackles? No. Why? Cause we take the ball way from you instead of just knocking you to the ground.

net result?

Team went from relegated, to #1 seed in the playoffs. Classic "worst-to-first" scenario in the making.


Not really...at all. 1st off - This post is a season too late. You were relegated 2 seasons ago. LAST SEASON you were the most improved team. You went from being relegated to going 10-6 with a playoff berth...but then again it was against far lesser competition. It would have been a complete failure if you guys DIDN'T make it into the playoffs. But I admire all of your team spirit.
 
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Originally posted by allstarpdc

You clearly don't understand what "MOST IMPROVED" means...or you don't get that it means most improved from last season. Just because you won 1 game that you thought you might not win DOES NOT MEAN thet you are the most improved team.

Chicago was 4-12 last season (12th place) and we finished this season 11-5 (5th place) and have our 1st playoff game in team history.

RGB was 10-6 last season. It's nice that you have a few more wins than you did last season but you didn't improve nearly as much as Chicago did. We went from the bottom 5 of the conference to the top 5.

Is there anyone who understands what "most improved" means that thinks they improved more than Chicago?



Actually I dont think you understand the meaning.
Going from 12th to 6th (makse sure you double check the standings before making claims) when there are 8 gutted/cupcake teams in the league is not all that impressive.
All you had to do was avoid tripping over the dead bodies to get to where you are.

Getting to #5 or #6 in this league is an accomplishment but not as impressive as making the next step to the upper echelons of the league.
It may not be improving the same number of places in the league standings but becoming one of the top 3 teams is probably 2-3 times as difficult when compared to going from #12 to #6.

Hope that clears things up.
 
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Originally posted by allstarpdc

Not really...at all. 1st off - This post is a season too late. You were relegated 2 seasons ago. LAST SEASON you were the most improved team. You went from being relegated to going 10-6 with a playoff berth...but then again it was against far lesser competition. It would have been a complete failure if you guys DIDN'T make it into the playoffs. But I admire all of your team spirit.


Now this is a little bit funny.

Chicago was in the same AA league as RGB for season 2.
After being rlegated to BBB they missed the playoffs for season 3 and season 4.

But if RGB doesnt make the playoffs the season after they were relegated it is "a complete failure".

What kind of failure would you call missing the playoffs for two seasons in a row?

 
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5th-7th place teams were all 11-5 so that is arbitrary

As for why Chicago didn't make the playoffs last 2 seasons...I Dunno. Some of the current management wasn't here then so I can't say. But I've been here from the middle of last season until now (and I have decent english comprehension and math skills...unlike other GMs in this conference obviously) so I CAN say that going from 4-12 to 11-5 in a conference where only 1 team was replaced with a "cupcake" team is a big improvement.

See...it really is YOU that doesn't quite get it yet. That's the thing about IMPROVEMENT (look it up in the dictionary if you are still having problems...it's OK. I know several people that went to Chicago public schools that have the same issue as you).

You might not be impressed that we made the playoffs this season (not tripping over the dead bodies & all) because you had a winning team last year. Chicago DID NOT...but we do this season. That's called IMPROVEMENT.
 
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Oh...and don't kid yourself into thinking you are in a class above us. Our game was close as I recall (as were many of our losses & your wins).
 
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Hmm...as a neutral in this spat i'm gonna fall on the RGB side just slightly. You've both improved drastically from last season, as well as Roswell, and it's been a good thing for the whole conference, but RGB have made a better all around improvement.

The main difference I can put forward is that RGB improved both sides of the ball a long way from last season, while yourselves and Roswell both have only so far put extensive work into your offences, and your D is still taking shape. You can shoot with almost any team, but you both haemorrhage points at a bad rate while RGB has stepped up their D drastically.

As far as the schedule this season, the claim that your schedule is easier is somewhat true, the Demonik have worked hard, but don't compare to Tucson who they replaced. Also to be considered are the losses of RMD, Dallas and Phoenix, all of who I believe beat Chicago last year (RGB played Dallas and RMD in a semi-gutted stage last season so it flattered them somewhat, while you were unlucky to hit I think all three pre-gutting). You can also throw Las Vegas's continued recession in on both sides of the ball if you like. There's a lot of flattering W-L rankings out there, we've done nothing more ourselves this season beyond a few minor changes, yet we got three more wins, is just the way the league is.

Point is mute though, this is just a matter of view, your never gonna agree as stats can say whatever you want them to. Is all mute in the end anyway as Holly probably outdo both of you in terms of improvements all around . They're not as strong as either of you but they've come up from nowhere in the East.
 
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Originally posted by TtD
Holly probably outdo both of you in terms of improvements all around . They're not as strong as either of you but they've come up from nowhere in the East.


By coming from nowhere...do you mean anything like a 4-12 record last season?
 
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Originally posted by allstarpdc
Originally posted by Weykool

Other than RGB the only other team that could be considered would be Roswell.

The first rankings had them at #8 fighting for a playoff spot.
Not only did they make the playoffs but the secured a home playoff game by beating Chicago.

RGB was listed at #6 as a "Bottom playoff team".
We should end up with the #1 seed.
The only bad thing here is we will most likely play a redhot Roswell team looking to avenge their early season loss to us.

The most disappointing/underachieving team would have to be Chicago.
Listed all season as the #4 power of the league they were only able to squeak into the #6 seed.


You clearly don't understand what "MOST IMPROVED" means...or you don't get that it means most improved from last season. Just because you won 1 game that you thought you might not win DOES NOT MEAN thet you are the most improved team.

Chicago was 4-12 last season (12th place) and we finished this season 11-5 (5th place) and have our 1st playoff game in team history.

RGB was 10-6 last season. It's nice that you have a few more wins than you did last season but you didn't improve nearly as much as Chicago did. We went from the bottom 5 of the conference to the top 5.

Is there anyone who understands what "most improved" means that thinks they improved more than Chicago?


you know who doesn't understand most improved?

you.

its not just about wins and losses and standings...

its about bettering your team, as was posted a few posts ago.

get over yourself.
 
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Most Improved can also be the "Sportsmanship Award". Now Tree, you obviously won't be winning that, LOL, but Bort doesn't award those kinds of trophies.
BTW, you won't be getting any "Most Improved Behavior" props, but somehow I don't think that's high on your list
 
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I think it's gotta be RGB, followed by Roswell then Chicago.
 
Tree
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Originally posted by King of Bling!
Most Improved can also be the "Sportsmanship Award". Now Tree, you obviously won't be winning that, LOL, but Bort doesn't award those kinds of trophies.
BTW, you won't be getting any "Most Improved Behavior" props, but somehow I don't think that's high on your list


please.

have you been following the thread? or any of them on this board? few teams are more gracious of their position than rgb....we had humble roots and worked hard to get to this point....
 
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Originally posted by Tree
Originally posted by King of Bling!

Most Improved can also be the "Sportsmanship Award". Now Tree, you obviously won't be winning that, LOL, but Bort doesn't award those kinds of trophies.
BTW, you won't be getting any "Most Improved Behavior" props, but somehow I don't think that's high on your list


please.

have you been following the thread? or any of them on this board? few teams are more gracious of their position than rgb....we had humble roots and worked hard to get to this point....


Yeah...I've noticed all of your "humbleness". Stop embarrassing yourself.
 
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Originally posted by Tree
Originally posted by allstarpdc

Originally posted by Weykool


Other than RGB the only other team that could be considered would be Roswell.

The first rankings had them at #8 fighting for a playoff spot.
Not only did they make the playoffs but the secured a home playoff game by beating Chicago.

RGB was listed at #6 as a "Bottom playoff team".
We should end up with the #1 seed.
The only bad thing here is we will most likely play a redhot Roswell team looking to avenge their early season loss to us.

The most disappointing/underachieving team would have to be Chicago.
Listed all season as the #4 power of the league they were only able to squeak into the #6 seed.


You clearly don't understand what "MOST IMPROVED" means...or you don't get that it means most improved from last season. Just because you won 1 game that you thought you might not win DOES NOT MEAN thet you are the most improved team.

Chicago was 4-12 last season (12th place) and we finished this season 11-5 (5th place) and have our 1st playoff game in team history.

RGB was 10-6 last season. It's nice that you have a few more wins than you did last season but you didn't improve nearly as much as Chicago did. We went from the bottom 5 of the conference to the top 5.

Is there anyone who understands what "most improved" means that thinks they improved more than Chicago?


you know who doesn't understand most improved? yes...you

you.

its not just about wins and losses and standings...

its about bettering your team, as was posted a few posts ago. don't be a moron...if you better your team and you play the following season in the SAME conference against the SAME teams...you will have more wins, less losses & a higher standing. pretty simple concept

get over yourself.


 
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