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How about this?

Option 1) Soft cap Vision, then speed, then agility

Option 2) Soft cap speed, then vision, then agility

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Option 3) Soft cap Agility, then Speed, then Vision imo

Originally posted by wontgodown
Option 3) Soft cap Agility, then Speed, then Vision imo

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While you should certainly softcap speed, I don't see how it would help with these things. It's not a case of him seeing a target but not getting there in time, it's an issue of not going for a target to block at all.

And yes, Agility first is the way to go. Why? Because it's one of the major attributes for FB and increases each level.

Originally posted by Lathund
While you should certainly softcap speed, I don't see how it would help with these things. It's not a case of him seeing a target but not getting there in time, it's an issue of not going for a target to block at all.

And yes, Agility first is the way to go. Why? Because it's one of the major attributes for FB and increases each level.

The faster your FB is, the more ground he can cover. If you watch some of those plays, the FB was just fast enough to clear the LoS blocks, but not quite fast enough to get to those second level blocks... leaving him in that nowhere land of not making any blocks.

If the FB was slower or had better vision, he'd be double teaming the DL. If he was faster, he'd be blocking those second level defenders. Although if he was faster and had good vision, he should be making the right block (as opposed to heading after the SS, when the OLB is closer and unblocked).

finally got a chance to watch that play...the FB does a good job. don't expect the FB to block the safety. it's the running back's responsibility to make him miss.

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
finally got a chance to watch that play...the FB does a good job. don't expect the FB to block the safety. it's the running back's responsibility to make him miss.

...did a good job of what? He didn't do anything. I could have had no FB on the field and gotten the same production, lol.

Originally posted by majech
Originally posted by Darren McFadden

finally got a chance to watch that play...the FB does a good job. don't expect the FB to block the safety. it's the running back's responsibility to make him miss.

...did a good job of what? He didn't do anything. I could have had no FB on the field and gotten the same production, lol.

I'm going to have to agree. The FB did nothing productive on those runs, because he isn't fast enough to reach the second level (at least not fast enough to meet the defender before the point of attack).

Also, the FB is supposed to block whoever is in the way (regardless if it's the LB or SS)... optimally the LB is out of position and the FB cleans the SS, giving the HB the opportunity to make a single man miss (probably the FS or CB) for a TD run.

he blocked the lineman. Those guys make tackles or diving tackles on plays like that all the time. You'd block the same no matter what attributes you had. The FBs responsibility is to open holes at the line, not to turn 10 yard inside carries into 60 yard touchdowns. Speed or vision had nothing to do with that play. If he hadn't blocked the lineman it would have been a loss or a 2 yard gain.

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
he blocked the lineman. Those guys make tackles or diving tackles on plays like that all the time. You'd block the same no matter what attributes you had. The FBs responsibility is to open holes at the line, not to turn 10 yard inside carries into 60 yard touchdowns. Speed or vision had nothing to do with that play. If he hadn't blocked the lineman it would have been a loss or a 2 yard gain.

What school of football did you come from? On any designed run play, if everyone executes properly (I.E. wins their individual battle), it should be a TD. The FB blocking the DL is because one of the OL didn't do his job... FBs are supposed to take on the first second-level defender they see, whoever that happens to be. Like I said, hopefully that is the SS (because the LB is out of position), which will lead to a big run if the HB can make the last man standing miss.

A team doesn't win games by thinking "well we just want a 4 yard gain here", they want to score every time they touch the rock. Obviously their is situational play-calling, but it's a rare soul that designs a play to only gain 4 yards... they design the play to go the distance, typically it doesn't happen because the execution isn't there or the defense executes better.

Either way, no team should be happy with a FB that has to constantly block DL because the OL is getting beat a lot. If this is in-fact the case, it's nice to have a FB that can get down field when he's needed to. TFL happen, I'd rather have a FB that blocks the second level defender and take the occasional TFL. Because the OL getting beat, should happen less often than the LB or SS making that tackle.

What would I know though, my HBs only average 6.5 YPC and I'm in the top 3 for pancakes in my entire league (which is also more than double the number of pancakes than anyone else on my team, except my ROT who is in the top 7 for the league)... I'm a big reason that my team is averaging 6 YPC (it's 6.5 YPC for the HBs, I bring the team average down).

I'm also not even a full blocking build FB, I had just under 1000 yards rushing last season (933.5 to be exact). That's in addition to both HBs breaking a 1000 yards also.

The FB in question needs more speed... no ifs, ands or buts about it. Vision is fine atm, because it's partially busted anyways. If his speed was at least soft-capped, he'd be getting more pancakes and his HBs would probably see a significant improvement to their YPC. Although, that also depends on whether or not their OL is decent.

Here's some footage of what a FB is supposed to do...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3304151

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3305354

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3306396

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3306249

All of these plays are from the same game against another top team in our league. I can show highlights against powder puff teams also, but that won't make my point.

DING, DING, DING...finally, it seems someone understood my question. Those plays are great FB plays. That dude is busting open some holes!!!

I definately agree that the FB should primarily be a second tier blocker. I'll take your advice under strong consideration.

Thanks Warlock!!!

No problem.

here's a play from the same game, same FB:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3302385

not every block is made 10 yards downfield.

blocking a LB didn't help on this play:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3302446

Originally posted by Darren McFadden
here's a play from the same game, same FB:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3302385

not every block is made 10 yards downfield.

blocking a LB didn't help on this play:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=152923&pbp_id=3302446

Watch the play closely and you may pick up on it...

First play was a good read by the FS, if I didn't block the LB on that play, he'd have made the tackle a step sooner than the FS did.

Second play was a bad cut back by the HB, he had a huge lane if he followed the block.

Either way, I don't know what you're trying to do... except further prove my point. Do us all a favor and go back to your armchair. It's obvious that you have no clue what you're talking about. Especially after showing, yet another, text-book perfect block in the second play. Which only further shows that I have a very well built FB who is experiencing a measure of success in this game.

Football is a game of execution. My FB executes his responsibilities on the majority of plays. It's not my fault that you don't know what the FBs responsibility is. The OP asked for advice to try and help his player execute better and based on his replies, I'd have to say that your assessment is way off the mark of what he was asking for.

P.S. after looking at your FB's production, it appears that you're just bitter. My FB has better numbers last season, than yours does in his entire career and the sad part is that your FB was higher level until tonight.