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Originally posted by rsb014
Huntsville isn't on your list? I have 'em at #1 on mine. Of course you guys have a long time to before you meet.

Maryland is just held back by lack of depth, their starters are very solid. I really thought our game this season was going to be very close, something like our games against Cleveland and Orlando. I mean they did knock us out of the playoffs last season after all. I guess they must have taken a gamble with their AI and come out on the short end to account for the score difference. I know I spent more time preparing a new AI that was much more in-depth than anything I have ever used in the past specifically for that game. I was that afraid we would lose and I desperately wanted revenge for the playoff loss.


Oh yea lol. Yea huntsville is deff on our list as well. Mainly because their running game and ability to control the clock is an absolute nightmare.
 
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I think we at Reno have finally pulled the team out of the depths it was in when we took over, hopefully we can continue the winning.
 
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Dont forget our kicker is automatic from 50+ We've still got a long way to go, and have yet to prove ourselves...of anything, except beating teams we should beat.
 
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Updated Rankings:

1. Huntsville
2. Cleveland
3. Reno
4. Orlando
5. Maryland
6. Florida
7. Yancy Street
8. Rochester

No upsets, not even a single close game today to warrant changing rankings. 3 games decided by 100 points and the closest game was still a 16 point difference. Next game we should see Florida take their first loss when they meet up with Huntsville. Rochester vs Hartford will probably have playoff implications as both teams have a chance at getting the #8 seed.

For those interested the AVG margin of victory this week was 68.25 points. Hooray for competitive balance.
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Updated after Game 5:

1) Bayou Bandits: Handled their business this week. 2 more weeks off until they play the Dragons.

2) Huntsville Rockets: I still like Huntsville as the #2 team. They doubled up a very game Rochester squad.

3) Florida BeachDogZ - Showed me something this week. Battlecreek is not a pushover, and this crew handled their business.

4) Orlando Soul: Slipping a little in my book. I think their margin of victory over the reapers should have been higher.

5) Maryland Predators: Rolled up a second tier squad, and looked good doing it.



On the Fence (in order):

Reno Knights: No change here. We'll need to see these guys play Florida, or see a top 5 team drop one in order for them to move up.

Cleveland Dawg Pound: Played a second tier team this week. Not a fantastic showing, but they got the job done.

Rochester Dragons: Handled by Huntsville and so I rank them below Cleveland now. Still a solid squad. They're gonna need to pick up one from the Knights or the Bandits to stay in the thick of the playoff hunt.




Potential playoff teams:

Battle Creek Bombers: These guys need to win 2 of their next three to be in the playoff race, and I don't see it happening.




Out of the hunt:

Hartford Hustlers: Tough stretch ahead. I think these guys are out of it.




Game to watch:

Florida v. Huntsville! Battle for #2!
Prediction: Huntsville by 7


All comments are welcome. REP YOUR TEAM!
 
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Bayou, Cleveland, Huntsville, Maryland, Orlando, Reno have pretty much been handed tickets to the playoffs already in my book and they will likely make up the top 6 spots (though not in the above order, its alphabetical). Florida will make the post season and may even crack the top 6 with a good season, though I kind of think they finish at 7.

That just leaves 1 more spot to battle for and a number of teams that will all be fighting for it. Rochester, Hartford, Yancy Street and Battle Creek are all close enough that it is hard to say exactly which one will get it but I am confident one of them will.
 
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dude, if you look at our team ratings (i'm from hartford), if and when we sign a punter, we're actually better talent-wise than a lot of teams such as rochester. we have the punishing D and a newly flourishing O. You just watch. sure, we beat a coupla cupcake teams, but we'll compete! remember, we beat maryland last year after all and competed with the nats!
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Originally posted by seancul55
dude, if you look at our team ratings (i'm from hartford), if and when we sign a punter, we're actually better talent-wise than a lot of teams such as rochester. we have the punishing D and a newly flourishing O. You just watch. sure, we beat a coupla cupcake teams, but we'll compete! remember, we beat maryland last year after all and competed with the nats!


I'll give you credit for some valid points. Your team is one of the more difficult to judge since you've only played really good and really bad teams with no wins or losses against middle of the road teams to try to gauge your position. A win against Rochester would go a long way to putting you in the playoffs, it should be a good game and could easily be the closest game that day.

In this case I've mostly going off of scores against common opponents with the absence of any better information. Rochester has the edge in common games, they put up 57 and allowed 7 against Black Flag to Hartford's 30 scored and 14 allowed. Against Thundertown they put up 118 to 14 allowed while Hartford scored 91 and allowed 28. So against common opponents Rochester has an average margin of victory of 77 points and Hartford's is 39.5. That's the main reason Rochester is on the rankings. Well that and the fact they were undefeated early on and I admittedly haven't paid as much attention to the bottom of the list as I have the top and middle. I know margin of victory is one of the least accurate ways to measure two teams since different teams match up in different ways and one team could be getting their backups more play in easy wins, but there's not much else to go on in this case.
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Originally posted by rsb014
Originally posted by seancul55

dude, if you look at our team ratings (i'm from hartford), if and when we sign a punter, we're actually better talent-wise than a lot of teams such as rochester. we have the punishing D and a newly flourishing O. You just watch. sure, we beat a coupla cupcake teams, but we'll compete! remember, we beat maryland last year after all and competed with the nats!


I'll give you credit for some valid points. Your team is one of the more difficult to judge since you've only played really good and really bad teams with no wins or losses against middle of the road teams to try to gauge your position. A win against Rochester would go a long way to putting you in the playoffs.

In this case I've mostly going off of scores against common opponents with the absence of any better information. Rochester has the edge in common games, they put up 57 and allowed 7 against Black Flag to Hartford's 30 scored and 14 allowed. Against Thundertown they put up 118 to 14 allowed while Hartford scored 91 and allowed 28. So against common opponents Rochester has an average margin of victory of 77 points and Hartford's is 39.5. That's the main reason Rochester is on the rankings. Well that and the fact they were undefeated early on and I admittedly haven't paid as much attention to the bottom of the list as I have the top and middle. I know margin of victory is one of the least accurate ways to measure two teams since different teams match up in different ways and one team could be getting their backups more play in easy wins, but there's not much else to go on in this case.


Ummm about the backup thing sometimes backups win you meaningful games
 
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Exactly, hence some teams get their backups more plays than others to keep them more competitive. I'm just saying it is one of a number of variables that can impact how many points you put up after the game is already a lock. That's why margin of victory isn't a very solid indicator of strength even against common opponents.

I'm all for getting backups reps and, when possible, not even having "starters" or "backups" but running a 50/50 rotation or something very close to it if you have enough depth and there isn't a large drop off between the players. I believe quality depth is what separates the best teams from the good teams and I have seen shallow rosters drag down teams with great starters more than once.
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Originally posted by rsb014
Originally posted by seancul55

dude, if you look at our team ratings (i'm from hartford), if and when we sign a punter, we're actually better talent-wise than a lot of teams such as rochester. we have the punishing D and a newly flourishing O. You just watch. sure, we beat a coupla cupcake teams, but we'll compete! remember, we beat maryland last year after all and competed with the nats!


I'll give you credit for some valid points. Your team is one of the more difficult to judge since you've only played really good and really bad teams with no wins or losses against middle of the road teams to try to gauge your position. A win against Rochester would go a long way to putting you in the playoffs, it should be a good game and could easily be the closest game that day.

In this case I've mostly going off of scores against common opponents with the absence of any better information. Rochester has the edge in common games, they put up 57 and allowed 7 against Black Flag to Hartford's 30 scored and 14 allowed. Against Thundertown they put up 118 to 14 allowed while Hartford scored 91 and allowed 28. So against common opponents Rochester has an average margin of victory of 77 points and Hartford's is 39.5. That's the main reason Rochester is on the rankings. Well that and the fact they were undefeated early on and I admittedly haven't paid as much attention to the bottom of the list as I have the top and middle. I know margin of victory is one of the least accurate ways to measure two teams since different teams match up in different ways and one team could be getting their backups more play in easy wins, but there's not much else to go on in this case.


What happened was that our OC didn't even bother making an offensive gameplan for the cupcake games and i made the PT 50-50 on the D (I'm the DC). I can see where you're coming from, but i didn't like the "out of it" part, lol. We did play terribly in those first 2 games though, no doubt. But now that we've made the signings and got our organization back together, don't be suprised if we knock a few teams off. We still have a long way to go before we're legit contenders for the 'ship, but I at least think we'll make the p/o's.
 
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Updated for Game 6. No Changes other than Rochester moving above Yancy for the time being after an impressive game vs Hartford.

1. Huntsville
2. Cleveland
3. Reno
4. Orlando
5. Maryland
6. Florida
7. Rochester
8. Yancy Street
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Yeah, good game to Rochester. They kept our D on the field all day. One good example, my starting SS got 84 plays! The best part is that his back-up still got 42 plays! Meanwhile I think we got off only 50 plays or so. Rochester won the battle versus our offense big time. Of course, the OC forgot to write up a freakin' GP... (walks off fuming silently, but turns around to say "GG Rochester!")
 
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Originally posted by seancul55
Yeah, good game to Rochester. They kept our D on the field all day. One good example, my starting SS got 84 plays! The best part is that his back-up still got 42 plays! Meanwhile I think we got off only 50 plays or so. Rochester won the battle versus our offense big time. Of course, the OC forgot to write up a freakin' GP... (walks off fuming silently, but turns around to say "GG Rochester!")


GG guys. Keep at it, you'll get it turned around.
 
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Originally posted by chriscuster
Originally posted by seancul55

Yeah, good game to Rochester. They kept our D on the field all day. One good example, my starting SS got 84 plays! The best part is that his back-up still got 42 plays! Meanwhile I think we got off only 50 plays or so. Rochester won the battle versus our offense big time. Of course, the OC forgot to write up a freakin' GP... (walks off fuming silently, but turns around to say "GG Rochester!")


GG guys. Keep at it, you'll get it turned around.


Thanks, we're trying, lol. Seems the east got a ton tougher all of a sudden and the west tanked
 
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