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Craelath
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Originally posted by Syd
Yes, it's a gutted team


All we needed to know. Gutted teams never count. And as I stated, cornerback play can't really be tracked by stats provided. I've still yet to see someone beat my 1% of total yards given up.
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Gutted teams NEVER count. Even showing stats against a gutted team is somethign you should just not brag about. Its like beating up a 10 year old girl and looking for credit.
 
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who is bragging... I just thought it was funny how my speed changed from the first play to the last play. Most of the returns we from good blocking and not that Jet made a good play.
 
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Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.
 
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Originally posted by brock86
Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.
 
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Originally posted by Craelath
Originally posted by brock86

Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?
 
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Originally posted by MattMan Firespot
Originally posted by Craelath

Originally posted by brock86


Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.
 
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My debut in my new team and running for a TD in the opener.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=162233&pbp_id=2307940
 
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I'm actually working on a spreadsheet formula to calculate a "coverage score" out of 100. If anyone is interested let me know and I'll set it up on Google Docs. It requires you to watch the entire game and input targets, completions, yards allowed, TD's allowed, PD's and INT's but does the rest for you Obviously you lose points for targets, completions, and yards/TD's allowed, while gaining a bit from PD's, INT's and a low comp. %. Highest possible score is 100/100 (1 target which ended up as an INT). PM for details and I'll try to hook you up.
 
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Originally posted by Craelath
Originally posted by MattMan Firespot

Originally posted by Craelath


Originally posted by brock86



Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.



I think you underestimate the intelligence of the people in this thread, or, atleast one of em. The thread title is 'The Best Individual Show'...Noone asked you to come in here and be 'that guy' who seems upset with the world because he doesnt get enough attention or for some weird personal issue.
This thread was supposed to be enjoyable for people, thank you for ruining it with your filth.
You've made it a mission to inform CBs that their stats are meaningless?? You need a role model, and a life.

And before you spew your nonsense, maybe you should watch people game tape before you make assumptions...As if any CB with stats isnt a shutdown CB...GTFO loser.
 
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Originally posted by Craelath
Originally posted by MattMan Firespot

Originally posted by Craelath


Originally posted by brock86



Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.


Thanks for taking the time to point out that I'd pointed out that I played against a gutted team. Thanks also for ignoring the little point I made about tactics, which might've indicated that I knew what was going on.

Now, if you'd like to see some real shut-down performances, take a look at any of my other games this season, they're all quite impressive. For example, my most recent game had me post 2 tackles and 2 PDs, against another Pro League championship-contending team.

Anyways, have fun against your weak AA-level opponents. And keep up the great shut down work of your own; it's obviously doing a lot to help your team achieve absolutely nothing.
 
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16 Punts for TDs
 
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Originally posted by MattMan Firespot
Gutted teams NEVER count. Even showing stats against a gutted team is somethign you should just not brag about. Its like beating up a 10 year old girl and looking for credit.


What about a gutted team getting the best of a built?
Working on it.
 
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Originally posted by MattMan Firespot
Originally posted by Craelath

Originally posted by MattMan Firespot


Originally posted by Craelath



Originally posted by brock86




Maybe if we all compared how we did against said gutted teams? I just played one..

2 Picks (both returned for TDs)
1 recovered fumble, also returned for a TD
6 Deflections, IIRC 4 vs my WR and 2 vs the TE
8 Tackles, IIRC 2 on the run/pitch, 5 on my WR, and the last on the TE

The most interesting thing to take away from that is how bad Aggressive is nowadays. I only broke even on Tackles vs PD+Picks, and that's against mostly CPU players 8 levels lower than me.


Gutted team, does not count. Deflections, picks, and tackles are all overrated at the cornerback position. Game by game breakdowns of coverage is all that really matters. My corner plays the entire time, provides air tight coverage, and has only given up four receptions so far this year. And I still think 2.0 catches allowed per game is high.


If you could duplicate yourself, and date her, would you?


That's funny, but to date, no one has gone so far as to look extensively at what really matters for a cornerback. That's providing shut down coverage on whoever you're covering. All I'm trying to do is show people how absolutely meaning less stats are to having a great game as a cornerback. Even in the NFL, possibly even the CFL (I'm quite unfamiliar with their stats), stats for a cornerback don't matter. Most of the time the players with big interception numbers are the ones gambling for the ball, sacrificing their coverage responsibility to try to get on ESPN. Ideally, Bort would add these couple stats, which really do matter, to defense, but I don't see it happening, so I've made it my mission to show people how absolutely overrated stats are. Now, if someone were to come here with a legit breakdown of a game where they were on for 80 plays against someone 28 levels higher, and was only thrown at three times with two defelctions and an incomplete, then awesome. Not only would that have been an incredible game from a coverage standpoint, one far greater than any I've posted, but someone would finally show that they get it. They understand a one pass deflected game has the potential to be infinitely greater than six deflections.



I think you underestimate the intelligence of the people in this thread, or, atleast one of em. The thread title is 'The Best Individual Show'...Noone asked you to come in here and be 'that guy' who seems upset with the world because he doesnt get enough attention or for some weird personal issue.
This thread was supposed to be enjoyable for people, thank you for ruining it with your filth.
You've made it a mission to inform CBs that their stats are meaningless?? You need a role model, and a life.

And before you spew your nonsense, maybe you should watch people game tape before you make assumptions...As if any CB with stats isnt a shutdown CB...GTFO loser.


By definition, you can't be a "shut down" corner if you had 16 passes deflected in a game. Look at Darrell Green and Deion Sanders. People avoided them completely. You've completely confused the term with that of ball hawking. Now, I'm not saying stats are completely worthless, but they are extremely overvalued. As for my "weak" AA level opponents, last time league rankings by level came out, USA AA2 was the fifth hardest league in the game, behind USA Pro, Western Europe Pro, Canadian Pro, and USA AAA1. So much for AA2 being weak, huh? Galaxy Aces came out of AA2, as did the Doomsday Sin, Parsippany Pain, Miami Vampires, Honolulu Hurricane warriors (One of the most dominant teams in the game right now), Monmouth Evil Monkies, who apparently has been used as a template for the entire South America league, and the Seattle Monsoon. These are all teams that would kick the ever loving shit out of 99.992881% of the game. And there's still more of us to come.
 
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By no means am I claiming to be a shutdown corner, but my stats from the last game:
17 tackles, 15 pass deflections, 1 int - pick 6

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=143558

Heh, just realized I somehow had coverage distance set to medium which explains the tackles and the deflections. A lot of the tackles came from going over to another man and picking up anyone that got by
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