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Originally posted by VenomCoach
Wouldn't get caught dead in it. You have 1 deep and everyone else is playing zone. If you set your zones to deep it might work in the red zone, but it would be fundamentally unsound.

That is wrong on every aspect, lol. You are man all over with a FS over the top. In the red zone, you should go cover 0, as there is not much chance of a FS being able to run sideline to sideline on a 10-20 yard pass. If you are in zone in the red zone, you should never be set to deep zone, as there is no deep zone.

Originally posted by Forbin
Originally posted by msupoke

Cover 1 is man.

No. No. No.

Yes, it is. Well, in real life, it is. If it is a zone in this game, I have lost all respect for the developers.

Originally posted by msupoke
Originally posted by Forbin

Originally posted by msupoke


Cover 1 is man.

No. No. No.

Yes, it is. Well, in real life, it is. If it is a zone in this game, I have lost all respect for the developers.

Well a Cover 1 Zone is unheard of but this isn't real life. It is possible in this sim even though it defeats the purpose of a Cover 1.

Originally posted by msupoke
Cover 1 is man. Every receiver will be covered, and the FS will be over the top. This is the most common (and best) man coverage. Cover 0 is man to man where even the FS has a man. This is used in blitz situations. Use this sparingly, unless you are that much better in the secondary than they are at receiver.

Also, I think Cover 2 Man would be the most common man coverage.

Originally posted by kr0n
Originally posted by msupoke

Cover 1 is man. Every receiver will be covered, and the FS will be over the top. This is the most common (and best) man coverage. Cover 0 is man to man where even the FS has a man. This is used in blitz situations. Use this sparingly, unless you are that much better in the secondary than they are at receiver.

Also, I think Cover 2 Man would be the most common man coverage.

I have never heard of Cover 2 Man. Cover 2 is a great zone package if you have LBs that can move. It may be an issue of terminology, though. When you say Cover 2 Man, I think of CBs and LBs matching up with the FS and SS over the top. I have always called that Man Under. It is used in Nickle and Dime situations a lot. However, Cover 1 is the base man package most of the time.

Originally posted by msupoke
Originally posted by kr0n

Originally posted by msupoke


Cover 1 is man. Every receiver will be covered, and the FS will be over the top. This is the most common (and best) man coverage. Cover 0 is man to man where even the FS has a man. This is used in blitz situations. Use this sparingly, unless you are that much better in the secondary than they are at receiver.

Also, I think Cover 2 Man would be the most common man coverage.

I have never heard of Cover 2 Man. Cover 2 is a great zone package if you have LBs that can move. It may be an issue of terminology, though. When you say Cover 2 Man, I think of CBs and LBs matching up with the FS and SS over the top. I have always called that Man Under. It is used in Nickle and Dime situations a lot. However, Cover 1 is the base man package most of the time.

Well I'm speaking in GLB standards. Cover 2 Zone in GLB isn't as effective as in real life which is why it's usually Cover 2 Man (or Man Under).

Originally posted by kr0n


Well I'm speaking in GLB standards. Cover 2 Zone in GLB isn't as effective as in real life which is why it's usually Cover 2 Man (or Man Under).


I just looked it up. It is set up into three zone coverages (2,3, and 4). You also have two man coverages (0 and 1).

"-----e. Defense Shell – This specifies how many defenders are covering the deep portion of the field(Cover 0 = man) – Formations provided by bluepike and are only theoretical based upon real life and may not represent the exact GLB model. They are just done to give you a general idea
----------i. Use Basic Settings – This will just follow what you’ve set in your basic settings.
----------ii. Cover 0 (man) – This is just straight up man coverage everyone on the field matches up with somebody
----------iii. Cover 1 – One safety is playing zone while everyone else matches up with people. This is usually used with corner or safety blitzing in order to disrupt the QB. The downside is that the safety could be burned badly by a WR.

----------iv. Cover 2 – 2 safeties split the deep zone in half, while the other defensive players cover everything in front of them:
4-3 Cover 2: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/bluepike/43cover2.jpg
3-4 Cover 2: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/bluepike/34cover2.jpg

----------v. Cover 3 – 2 CBs and a safety drop back into the deep zone to cover, while the other defensive player covers everything in front of them:
4-3 Cover 3: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/bluepike/43cover3.jpg
3-4 Cover 3: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/bluepike/34cover3.jpg

----------vi. Cover 4 – Also known as the prevent defense, the 2 CBs and 2 Safeties drop into the deep zone to defend against long passes:
4-3 Cover 4: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/bluepike/43cover4.jpg
3-4 Cover 4: http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm141/bluepike/34cover4.jpg"

Originally posted by
Formations provided by bluepike and are only theoretical based upon real life and may not represent the exact GLB model.

Caveats are your friends. In GLB, Cover 0/1 and Zone is quite possible. Whether it's smart or not is a different conversation.

Originally posted by kurieg

Caveats are your friends. In GLB, Cover 0/1 and Zone is quite possible. Whether it's smart or not is a different conversation.

I still cannot figure out how a cover 0/1 could ever be a zone. Can you explain?

Originally posted by msupoke
Originally posted by kurieg


Caveats are your friends. In GLB, Cover 0/1 and Zone is quite possible. Whether it's smart or not is a different conversation.

I still cannot figure out how a cover 0/1 could ever be a zone. Can you explain?

Cover 1 > Underneath Coverage: Zone. You can set that in your tactics. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=188369&pbp_id=812498

This is a Cover 1 Zone

Originally posted by kr0n


Cover 1 > Underneath Coverage: Zone. You can set that in your tactics. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=188369&pbp_id=812498

This is a Cover 1 Zone


I have never been a DC, so I do not know what the settings are. However, that play does not necessarily look like a zone. I was actually thinking man when I saw that. The CBs were locked on WRs. The Sam Backer was locked on the TE (who was blocking him). The Mike Backer locked on the FB (again being blocked). The Will Backer most likely had the HB in coverage. However, no one ran routes, so it was hard to tell what the defense was.

Originally posted by msupoke
Originally posted by Forbin

Originally posted by msupoke


Cover 1 is man.

No. No. No.

Yes, it is. Well, in real life, it is. If it is a zone in this game, I have lost all respect for the developers.

You're missing what the coverage schemes actually mean. They are just defensive shells. You can run any zone or man defense you want out of any coverage shell. (Except Cover 0, which is obvious)

Just because not many RL teams run a cover 1 zone doesn't mean that "Cover 1 is man to man". That's not what cover 1 means. Cover 1 refers to the shell, not the entire package.

Originally posted by msupoke
Originally posted by kurieg


Caveats are your friends. In GLB, Cover 0/1 and Zone is quite possible. Whether it's smart or not is a different conversation.

I still cannot figure out how a cover 0/1 could ever be a zone. Can you explain?

Your coming at it from a RL football team. 0/1 is run with man on the corners. A lot of these guys dont understand the basics of calling defensive schemes.

Originally posted by tjcaliente
Originally posted by msupoke

Originally posted by kurieg



Caveats are your friends. In GLB, Cover 0/1 and Zone is quite possible. Whether it's smart or not is a different conversation.

I still cannot figure out how a cover 0/1 could ever be a zone. Can you explain?

Your coming at it from a RL football team. 0/1 is run with man on the corners. A lot of these guys dont understand the basics of calling defensive schemes.

That reminds me, we really need the ability to put LBs into a zone (ie, hook, flats) and leave the CBs in man. Guess that'd be up after the offensive AI is worked on.

Originally posted by Forbin
Originally posted by msupoke

Originally posted by Forbin


Originally posted by msupoke



Cover 1 is man.

No. No. No.

Yes, it is. Well, in real life, it is. If it is a zone in this game, I have lost all respect for the developers.

You're missing what the coverage schemes actually mean. They are just defensive shells. You can run any zone or man defense you want out of any coverage shell. (Except Cover 0, which is obvious)

Just because not many RL teams run a cover 1 zone doesn't mean that "Cover 1 is man to man". That's not what cover 1 means. Cover 1 refers to the shell, not the entire package.

Man, we could use a chalk board. OK. If I am understanding you correctly, you are saying that a Cover 1/Zone would be


CB...........LB...........LB............LB............CB
.............................FS...............................

...or some variation of LB blitz out of this. Is that correct? If so, I want to face the DC that uses that.