Warrior General Games

Originally posted by RayRay99
JESUS H. CHRIST

Strength of Schedule:
Florida State - 58th
Texas A&M - 47th

Johnny's stats in 2 games against Bama and Auburn:
56/77, 73%, 918 yds passing, 9/4 TD/Int Ratio, 146 yds rushing, 1 TDs

He averaged 532 total yards and 5 TDs and 2 picks against the 1st and 6th ranked teams in the country. Our shitty defense is the reason we have 2 losses; blaming his play in those losses makes you look like a butt hurt, jealous, t-sip. Oh, wait...




A perfect example of an aggie's reading comprehension here. I was obviously referring to 2012 there, not 2013. How stupid are you?

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


A perfect example of an aggie's reading comprehension here. I was obviously referring to 2012 there, not 2013. How stupid are you?

I misread, it doesn't make your point any more valid. In 2012 we had the 6th ranked SoS in the country. He played poorly in 2 games, one of them being his first ever game, and they were against the 2nd and 8th ranked defenses in the country. The fact that he hasn't had any games close to those this year shows how he has improved his game over his record-breaking year last year and why he is the most outstanding player in college football.

Originally posted by RayRay99
I misread, it doesn't make your point any more valid. In 2012 we had the 6th ranked SoS in the country. He played poorly in 2 games, one of them being his first ever game, and they were against the 2nd and 8th ranked defenses in the country. The fact that he hasn't had any games close to those this year shows how he has improved his game over his record-breaking year last year and why he is the most outstanding player in college football.

Absolutely it does. That SoS was heavily influenced by the fact tha the played those three teams against two of which he played poorly.

Here is the rest of that schedule:

SMU--7 wins--Non-BCS team
South Carolina State--8 wins--FCS team
Arkansas--4 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team
Ole Miss--7 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team
La Tech--9 wins--Non-BCS team
Auburn--3 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team
Miss St--8 wins (2 FCS)--BCS team
Sam Houston--8 wins--FCS team
Mizzou--5 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team

What a complete joke. Two FCS teams, two Non-BCS teams, and five BCS teams. Of those BCS teams, none had more than 6 wins against BCS opponents and two had three or less. Like I said, he put up those stats against one of the worst schedules I've ever seen. In the three real games he played, he played poorly in two.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Like I said, he put up those stats against one of the worst schedules I've ever seen.

Originally posted by RayRay99
In 2012 we had the 6th ranked SoS in the country.

Seems legit. He lost by 3 points to the 8th ranked defense in the country in his first ever start, and lost by 5 to the 2nd rated team in the country, putting up mediocre stats. He then won by 5 to the 1st ranked defense in the country. He went 9-0 against the remainder of his opponents, which included 4 more bowl teams. He then went to the Cotton Bowl and set an FBS bowl record for rushing, totaling 516 total yards while raping the mighty Big XII co-champion Oklahoma, the same team that beat texas by 42 points on the same field.

Clearly he was overrated and padded stats against weaker opponents, even though he didn't play 1 or 2 quarters in multiple games.

Someone else please chime in and tell him how ridiculous he sounds please.

Originally posted by RayRay99
Seems legit. He lost by 3 points to the 8th ranked defense in the country in his first ever start, and lost by 5 to the 2nd rated team in the country, putting up mediocre stats. He then won by 5 to the 1st ranked defense in the country. He went 9-0 against the remainder of his opponents, which included 4 more bowl teams. He then went to the Cotton Bowl and set an FBS bowl record for rushing, totaling 516 total yards while raping the mighty Big XII co-champion Oklahoma, the same team that beat texas by 42 points on the same field.

Clearly he was overrated and padded stats against weaker opponents, even though he didn't play 1 or 2 quarters in multiple games.

Someone else please chime in and tell him how ridiculous he sounds please.

No one else is going to chime in because they agree with me. This is the Heisman we are talking about. His performance against Oklahoma is irrelevant and his performances against Florida and LSU should have put him out of the running. You can refer to his "record-breaking" stats all you want, but those stats were put up against a horrible record and Bama.

Here's Manziel against the only three teams he played that were worth a damn:
76/120, 63%, 702 yards, 2/3 TD/INT, 179 rush yards, 1 TD = 881 total yards, 3 total TD, 3 total turnovers, 1 win

And Klein against the top three ranked teams he faced:
37/57, 64%, 578 yards, 1/1 TD/INT, 246 rush yards, 4 TD = 824 total yards, 5 total TDs, 1 total turnover, 3 wins

When you look at their performance against the top teams and not against the scrubs, Klein was clearly the better QB. Manziel benefited from putting up stats against at terrible schedule.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
Absolutely it does. That SoS was heavily influenced by the fact tha the played those three teams against two of which he played poorly.

Here is the rest of that schedule:

SMU--7 wins--Non-BCS team
South Carolina State--8 wins--FCS team
Arkansas--4 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team
Ole Miss--7 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team
La Tech--9 wins--Non-BCS team
Auburn--3 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team
Miss St--8 wins (2 FCS)--BCS team
Sam Houston--8 wins--FCS team
Mizzou--5 wins (1 FCS)--BCS team

What a complete joke. Two FCS teams, two Non-BCS teams, and five BCS teams. Of those BCS teams, none had more than 6 wins against BCS opponents and two had three or less. Like I said, he put up those stats against one of the worst schedules I've ever seen. In the three real games he played, he played poorly in two.



If you take away any team's top 4 games (since you didn't include the bowl game either), their strength of schedule is not going to look good, especially a team that didn't have a conference championship game to bolster it.

As far as their games against the top defenses they played, which games are you counting for Klein? Were any of those defenses worth a shit? And how did those top 3 opponents compare in the rankings compared to Alabama, LSU, and Florida?

Fun fact, A&M scored more points against each of LSU, Florida, and Alabama than those defenses allowed on average. Kansas State scored 13 fewer points than Baylor allowed on average. So to say the LSU and Florida games for Manziel were worse than the Baylor game for Klein just dosn't hold water.

Also some of your stats are way off. Ole Miss, Mississippi State, and Missouri had 4, 4, and 3 wins against FCS teams, not 1, 2, and 1 as you listed it. Not that those are elite opponents even so, but like I said it's stupid to cut out the four best opponent's in a team's schedule anyway.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser

Famous Jameis protect your anus. Bye Bye Heisman.

Originally posted by RayRay99
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10009077/dna-analysis-matches-jameis-winston-accuser

Famous Jameis protect your anus. Bye Bye Heisman.

yeah, i was just getting ready to post this.

Johnny is getting the B2B now

Innocent until proven guilty...my bet is they won't finish this before votes are done....but if he doesn't win because of this its his own fault. I'm not gonna be like you and defend a POS. I hope he is innocent but if not...too bad for him.

Please enlighten me as to how Johnny has shown to be a POS.

Originally posted by RayRay99
Please enlighten me as to how Johnny has shown to be a POS.

Lol, just read back several pages...the guys a douche that will be his own undoing...not going to rehash it, but me and others have all discussed it itt previously.

Oh and great game today Johnny...

Awful week for a number of leading Heisman candidates

Originally posted by TrevJo
Awful week for a number of leading Heisman candidates

Overall (with everything included) did any of the top 5 do any good?