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Originally posted by Admerylous
So who's dumber, her or her advisors, for wearing it?

Anyone seen some of the Couric interviews or some of Palins other interviews? She seems pretty navie at times.

I mean the I don't know what John Mcain has does to push for more regulation, the I can't name 1 magazine I read to stay informed, the I've never met with a foreign leader, the I don't know of a Supreme Court issue besides Roe v Wade I have an opion on.

I'm less then impressed with the typical white people comment seems to be taken/used out of context.

As far as abortion goes I think the drawing of the line between what is life seems to be more of a religious issue currently then social. I think you may be able to say you can't have an abortion after some time, but I don't think you'll ever be able to say you can't ever have an abortion.

Originally posted by suckstobesara
I think you may be able to say you can't have an abortion after some time, but I don't think you'll ever be able to say you can't ever have an abortion.

Yep. And that's where things are right now. I don't really see them changing significantly one way or the other.

The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical BLACK person who, uh, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know there's a reaction that's been been bred into our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way and that's just the nature of race in our society.

If John McCain said this he would be labeled a racist and you know it

If you sucked John McCain's dick any harder you'd go from being called bisexual to straight up gay; what is your point?

You obviously agree with me. I mean since you can only attack me. Rather than come back with a rational response.

Originally posted by Admerylous
...Obama is one of the first candidates that isn't trying to paint it a prettier picture than it really is. And honestly, part if it is because he is a black man. A white man wouldn't ever be able to say "a typical black man"...

Hutchins, why don't you learn to fucking read?

I am going to have to stop discussing politics with you. You are far too stupid and closed minded. You haven't done anything other than throw random pity attacks on Obama this entire time. You aren't discussing anything, you're just being a little immature bitch. Come back to the politics thread when you've grown up and can discuss issues you care about like an adult.

Admerylous, you think McCain could call a black grandmother a "typical black woman" without a shitstorm?

It's definitely a double standard. I think we're way too PC of a society and should be able to state the world as we see it. However, it's definitely true that minorities get more leeway on these sorts of things. Maybe for good reason, maybe not, but they do.

Originally posted by Admerylous

...A WHITE MAN WOULDN'T EVER BE ABLE TO SAY "A TYPICAL BLACK MAN"...

I am going to seriously shoot myself if you guys keep this up. Seriously. I can't handle it. Beyond this, people like hutchins are taking a benign little remark by Obama and using it to divide people further.

Show me one speech or time McCain has been able to talk about race with candor and realism. Something that had substance and ideas or notions to grab onto and run with. Please. Tell me something about McCain that indicates he will improve this situation in America.

I see that according to many people here the "Politics Thread" is nothing more than a shit slinging and bullshit remark thread. I guess that is what you have learned and been trained to believe politics are. I don't know why we can't actually discuss the fucking issues though.

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The problem with what Obama said is that it is a generalization, and generalizations are in general bad. He essentially said that all white people are the same. You may not have been offended by it, or view it as a negative thing but there are many people out there that do. If McCain or any other white person in power made a generalization about another race, people would be calling for his head. You may not care if McCain said something like that, but it likely would have ended his chances of winning the election. Its a double standard that shouldn't exist.

Admerylous, I understand why you admire the contribution Obama can make to race relations in the States. Obviously that is something McCain isn't, and perhaps can't, bring to the table. But you are avoiding what seems to be a very easy question to answer. It IS a double standard, not a particularly scurrilous one but one nonetheless.

I'd have a lot more respect for Obamanation if they could try to be objective rather than refusing to admit even the most obvious media biases for him. Yes he's a strong candidate and a breath of fresh air in some ways. But for so many of them, it's like a cult, it's a little ridiculous. He's our savior and can't say or do anything wrong, everything must be defended.

Can you just answer the question, without launching into some diatribe that completely avoids such an easy question? You may not think the question is important, but stating so is entirely different from answering it directly. I don't think it's that important myself, but it frustrates me when people dodge questions they don't want to answer; that's not being objective at all. Could McCain have called a black relation a "typical black person" without a shitstorm of controversy such as Obama has not had to deal with? I think you avoid it because the answer is pretty obvious.

I agree Cosine, but lwt's be honest. The people who were "offended" are voting for McCain.

That doesn't make it ok, by any means, but that is a big part of it.

And TJ, come on. I work with some guys that are so far on the right they should be sent back in time to the Confederate South. They take what FOX News and the local conservative radio says as law.

I'm a down the middle kind of guy, so maybe I see this stuff more clear than others. But almost anything you can accuse one side of, it can be thrown right back the other way.

Originally posted by DrkSandman
And TJ, come on. I work with some guys that are so far on the right they should be sent back in time to the Confederate South. They take what FOX News and the local conservative radio says as law.

I'm a down the middle kind of guy, so maybe I see this stuff more clear than others. But almost anything you can accuse one side of, it can be thrown right back the other way.

No I agree, there are extremes on both sides. But I don't see why Admerylous is dodging such a simple, and quite frankly obvious, question. If McCain said "typical black person" Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be on his ass before you could blink. Now watch, he'll respond to deny that he's dodging it without answering it.

Oh and in response to your statement...if McCain said that, the people that would be offended would be those voting for Obama. That's natural, and not really that relevant imo.

By repeating my own quote, stating that A WHITE PERSON (FYI: John McCain is a white man) could not say the same thing, I have confirmed over and over again that it is a double standard that exists. How is that SO fucking hard to understand? Seriously? Explain it to me. Please.

I can't handle this. Really. I can't handle this level of stupidity. I'm dead fucking serious right now; you guys are idiots.

By saying typical white person while referencing his own elderly white grandmother he was inferring that the TYPICAL (read: MAJORITY) of white people to this day harbor negative and suspicious thoughts about minorities in this country. Let's not fucking kid ourselves.

You guys can cry about it all you fucking want but you're not improving anything. Cry about the double standards of racism, reverse racism, etc. etc. It doesn't change anything you fucking babies.

I'm sick of this bullshit. You just keep talking about the problems and throwing dirt but don't address the real issues or solutions.

Get off your fucking high horses you bitches.
"Racism is wrong both ways!!"
NO, SHIT, REALLY?
"OBAMA WAS BEING A RACIST!!"
Pleeeeaaassseee.

Originally posted by DrkSandman
I agree Cosine, but lwt's be honest. The people who were "offended" are voting for McCain.

That doesn't make it ok, by any means, but that is a big part of it.

Anyone who would have been offended had McCain said the opposite is a hypocrite if they are not offended by what Obama said.