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atm490
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Originally posted by Ballbright
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However, I haven't seen anything definitive to show that Catspaw knew that Billy was gutting a team. Barring that, it's not collusion.


YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GUTTING A TEAM< OR EVEN HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT A TEAM IS BEING GUTTED TO BE COLLUDING.

Colluding happens when two or more parties make a deal that benefits one party at the expense of another.

That happened here. Billy, as GM of the Thrashers, offered Catspaw A CB and an HB for an INACTIVE player....

If Catspaw didn't think that was odd, he has the approximate intelligence of a box full of hammers...


More people are innocent because "they didn't know" than because they were completely innocent of wrongdoing...
 
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Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by Daman

we should take this to a forum court. who wants to run for judge for scandal?
1. i will run . daman
2. who is it? it might be you?
(this will keep going not just two people)


Great, the village idiot has shown up...

...will someone please translate whatever it is that he said in the above quote?


lol go shove a pipe up this guys butt. he really needs it.
 
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My personal opinion on this that nobody'll care about..? =3 I'm not bothered by the small act of 'collusion' or whatnot, though I view it as mildly dishonorable. That's something I can easily shrug off, forget, and not care about. Already have, for that matter. What does bother me, however, is how this has and is being handled now..partial truths and hiding away aren't the best strategy to establish trustworthiness or respect. ;;
 
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Originally posted by Ballbright
Originally posted by Daman

we should take this to a forum court. who wants to run for judge for scandal?
1. i will run . daman
2. who is it? it might be you?
(this will keep going not just two people)


Great, the village idiot has shown up...

...will someone please translate whatever it is that he said in the above quote?


Dude your just a dick, at least Damen doesnt spend all of his time argueing something as stupid as what your are.

Look at how much time you wasted today talking about this? And u call damen an idiot?

Get a life dude.
 
Daman
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joe should just shutup because after the season we will let him go and everyone will be happy.








case closed as i say it again!!!
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bigpimpin123
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Catspaw knew what he was doing when he did it. Case closed. haha oh ^^^ said that already
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civarian
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Originally posted by Daman
joe should just shutup because after the season we will let him go and everyone will be happy.







case closed as i say it again!!!


he won't be happy. clearly. he is losing out on XP. I mean, if you ban him from the forums is it necessary to cut him from the starting squad as well?
 
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Originally posted by bigpimpin123
Catspaw knew what he was doing when he did it. Case closed.

finally someone agrees with me. thanks bigpimpin... even though ur on the gods but that is fine.
 
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Originally posted by Ballbright

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GUTTING A TEAM OR EVEN HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT A TEAM IS BEING GUTTED TO BE COLLUDING.

Colluding happens when two or more parties make a deal that benefits one party at the expense of another.


Now that I re-read that, it isn't accurate. You've got two separate things going on:

You've got A) BillyVassi intending to illegally gut a team and make a team on which is a player better, and

B) CatsPaw being offered a somewhat lopsided trade in which he gets rid of an inactive player and gains an active player.

In order to prove collusion here, you would have to prove that A and B were connected. You would need to show (beyond a reasonable doubt, I must add) that CatsPaw knew Billy's intentions. I don't believe that has been proven yet.

As it stands you've just got arguably illegal activity in A and arguably unethical activity in B. But still no collusion...
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Originally posted by civarian
Originally posted by Daman

joe should just shutup because after the season we will let him go and everyone will be happy.







case closed as i say it again!!!


he won't be happy. clearly. he is losing out on XP. I mean, if you ban him from the forums is it necessary to cut him from the starting squad as well?


If its not true they should have nothing to hide and benching him shows us the exact opposite
 
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Originally posted by civarian
Originally posted by Daman

joe should just shutup because after the season we will let him go and everyone will be happy.







case closed as i say it again!!!


he won't be happy. clearly. he is losing out on XP. I mean, if you ban him from the forums is it necessary to cut him from the starting squad as well? [/QUOTE



daman said:

we are still going to play him. he just is saying that he will run against the gameplan. that will lose him xp.
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Brisbane players.....

Did catspaw post on the private forums about the traded HB being inactive? Did he state how he was unhappy about it? Did he post about how he wanted to get rid of him? Was the HB in question inactive for a long time? Did BillyVassi have access to see this?

Did catspaw post that a backup good CB was needed? Did BillyVassi have access to see this?

Did the inactive HB get traded for the needed backup CB , who was active? Was BillyVassi the one to get the needed CB to the Bandits? Did the Bandits give up a player that played only a few downs, was inactive, and was worth not much to the Bandits?
 
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Originally posted by bigpimpin123
Originally posted by civarian

Originally posted by Daman


joe should just shutup because after the season we will let him go and everyone will be happy.







case closed as i say it again!!!


he won't be happy. clearly. he is losing out on XP. I mean, if you ban him from the forums is it necessary to cut him from the starting squad as well?


If its not true they should have nothing to hide and benching him shows us the exact opposite


I was told I would not be released.
 
Ballbright
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Originally posted by kevins4484


Dude your just a dick, at least Damen doesnt spend all of his time argueing something as stupid as what your are.

Look at how much time you wasted today talking about this? And u call damen an idiot?

Get a life dude.


It's kind of hard to listen to someone call me stupid, while they spout of the following incredibly intelligent line....


argueing something as stupid as what your are.

Misspellings and typos aside, you've been here just as long as I have, and I can't bear to watch you call yourself an idiot...so perhaps it would be best if you kept my name off your keyboard...mmmkay?

I've proven Daman a moron time and time again. Search for threads I've typed in if you need to see where.
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Originally posted by atm490
Originally posted by Ballbright


YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE GUTTING A TEAM OR EVEN HAVE KNOWLEDGE THAT A TEAM IS BEING GUTTED TO BE COLLUDING.

Colluding happens when two or more parties make a deal that benefits one party at the expense of another.


Now that I re-read that, it isn't accurate. You've got two separate things going on:

You've got A) BillyVassi intending to illegally gut a team and make a team on which is a player better, and

B) CatsPaw being offered a somewhat lopsided trade in which he gets rid of an inactive player and gains an active player.

In order to prove collusion here, you would have to prove that A and B were connected. You would need to show (beyond a reasonable doubt, I must add) that CatsPaw knew Billy's intentions. I don't believe that has been proven yet.


it hasnt been disproven either. odds are he knew it was a crappy and suspicious deal. all he had to do was look at the team which isnt hard to believe
 
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