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DB Coach
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What's a serious idea to get GLB back to the hay days?
Or is it to far gone?
I'll answer that for you, IT AINT TO FAR GONE!!!
Or is it to far gone?
I'll answer that for you, IT AINT TO FAR GONE!!!
Originally posted by DB Coach
What's a serious idea to get GLB back to the hay days?
Or is it to far gone?
I'll answer that for you, IT AINT TO FAR GONE!!!
You would be incorrect. #1, we're not returning to any 'hay day'. That would require a reversal of many changes that WE wanted back then. #2, It has been said, and shown, that WG's interest in further efforts concerning GLB 1 is only in maintaining (at best) it's current platform until it is no longer feasible to do so. #3, many of us don't WANT to go back to the way things were. Many wouldn't mind. Some LIKE the new building system (although, technically, it's not new anymore). Some do not. Some like ALG's. Some don't. Some enjoy VA's. Some hate it. There's enough on both sides to create a stagnation of current situation so changes are not coming.
And that is the sad part, really. The ONLY thing the game needs is a slightly less static format. I'm not saying complete upheaval every season... just changes that effect strategies concerning the game. Maybe one season of better passing and rougher rushing... then one in reverse... then balance... ect, ect. Something... ANYTHING small that makes you HAVE to do a good job of not only building dots but gameplaning, AI setups, and playbook setups. When nothing at all ever changes... it becomes not only simple to eventually figure out exactly how to game it best... but it also becomes completely boring to do so season after season after season. THAT is the slow death everyone feels... the fact that absolutely nothing changes... and that nobody seems to care anymore that that is true.
What's a serious idea to get GLB back to the hay days?
Or is it to far gone?
I'll answer that for you, IT AINT TO FAR GONE!!!
You would be incorrect. #1, we're not returning to any 'hay day'. That would require a reversal of many changes that WE wanted back then. #2, It has been said, and shown, that WG's interest in further efforts concerning GLB 1 is only in maintaining (at best) it's current platform until it is no longer feasible to do so. #3, many of us don't WANT to go back to the way things were. Many wouldn't mind. Some LIKE the new building system (although, technically, it's not new anymore). Some do not. Some like ALG's. Some don't. Some enjoy VA's. Some hate it. There's enough on both sides to create a stagnation of current situation so changes are not coming.
And that is the sad part, really. The ONLY thing the game needs is a slightly less static format. I'm not saying complete upheaval every season... just changes that effect strategies concerning the game. Maybe one season of better passing and rougher rushing... then one in reverse... then balance... ect, ect. Something... ANYTHING small that makes you HAVE to do a good job of not only building dots but gameplaning, AI setups, and playbook setups. When nothing at all ever changes... it becomes not only simple to eventually figure out exactly how to game it best... but it also becomes completely boring to do so season after season after season. THAT is the slow death everyone feels... the fact that absolutely nothing changes... and that nobody seems to care anymore that that is true.
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Originally posted by DB Coach
Why doesn't everyone create a Rookie team? We can have a battle of the poor bastards that are still around here.
Nothing will change until Bort sells GLB and someone contacts all the banned people.
none of them were very good besides PT anyways so that wouldnt help
Why doesn't everyone create a Rookie team? We can have a battle of the poor bastards that are still around here.
Nothing will change until Bort sells GLB and someone contacts all the banned people.
none of them were very good besides PT anyways so that wouldnt help
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Originally posted by DB Coach
What's a serious idea to get GLB back to the hay days?
Or is it to far gone?
I'll answer that for you, IT AINT TO FAR GONE!!!
two far gone is more like it
What's a serious idea to get GLB back to the hay days?
Or is it to far gone?
I'll answer that for you, IT AINT TO FAR GONE!!!
two far gone is more like it
Originally posted by bhall43
most of them never really left so that wouldnt help
most of them never really left so that wouldnt help
Saris
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As a stand alone product GLB is probably approaching its shelf life.
What they should have done is continue to build on their niche. Creating new complex (non football) sports based games that could keep the interest of their current customers while adding new fans from the other sports. Then they could occasionally revamp player building to keep GLB fresh, but I wouldn't devote many resources to it.
Instead they created a game that undermined their only existing product, while completely going away from their niche by making it mind numbingly simple. The equivalent would be AMC parlaying their Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and Walking Dead success into a few seasons of 24 hour Hee-Haw. Long story short, WG left a lot of money on the table.
What they should have done is continue to build on their niche. Creating new complex (non football) sports based games that could keep the interest of their current customers while adding new fans from the other sports. Then they could occasionally revamp player building to keep GLB fresh, but I wouldn't devote many resources to it.
Instead they created a game that undermined their only existing product, while completely going away from their niche by making it mind numbingly simple. The equivalent would be AMC parlaying their Breaking Bad, Mad Men, and Walking Dead success into a few seasons of 24 hour Hee-Haw. Long story short, WG left a lot of money on the table.
Edited by Saris on Sep 13, 2014 02:38:46
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The changes from season to season did make it interesting for it was change.
If only the multi season teams came in and where grand fathered in to the game staying the same as it was their rookie season so your builds wouldn't go from good to suck because the game engine changed.
If only the multi season teams came in and where grand fathered in to the game staying the same as it was their rookie season so your builds wouldn't go from good to suck because the game engine changed.
well if we gonna ride it out-then its us who still in here keep it fun rivalry and scrims and such
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Open the defense up more. Allow coordinators more freedom in play-calling, allow specific plays to be called based on situations with less of a RNG factor. People don't want to pay into a game that is being left as is with minimal game owner attention, so to stabilize some core player availability possibly a couple more free players for the people that have decided to stick around and ride this out to the end.
I will only have been here for 3 years this coming October. It's a good game and it is sad to see it going to the wayside as it seems to be. GLB 2 was a horrible idea and a company should know better than to develop a product that directly competes with it's current cash cow all the while putting the cash cow out to pasture. It isn't good business sense.
I will only have been here for 3 years this coming October. It's a good game and it is sad to see it going to the wayside as it seems to be. GLB 2 was a horrible idea and a company should know better than to develop a product that directly competes with it's current cash cow all the while putting the cash cow out to pasture. It isn't good business sense.
Originally posted by euchrid
It is weird, you guys still talk about GLB2 being this sinister 'competitor' as if, when people purchase Flex Points on that side, the money goes somewhere else...?
I think, that if GLB 2 was head and shoulders better than GLB 1 is, then nobody would complain at all and we'd all be over there enjoying the game and this convo would be as dead as GLB 1 would be. But, by all accounts, it is NOT better (not saying it is worse... just saying that it surely wasn't/isn't good enough to replace GLB 1 in any way as a better game)... at best, it is simply a different variety of what we already had/have here. That means GLB 2 "stole" players and their flex from here (GLB 1), thinning an already weakened crowd and polluting the leagues with CPU teams. GLB 2 isn't sinister... just lame. Sure. WG gets it's money no matter where it's spent. Doesn't help out here at all.
It is weird, you guys still talk about GLB2 being this sinister 'competitor' as if, when people purchase Flex Points on that side, the money goes somewhere else...?
I think, that if GLB 2 was head and shoulders better than GLB 1 is, then nobody would complain at all and we'd all be over there enjoying the game and this convo would be as dead as GLB 1 would be. But, by all accounts, it is NOT better (not saying it is worse... just saying that it surely wasn't/isn't good enough to replace GLB 1 in any way as a better game)... at best, it is simply a different variety of what we already had/have here. That means GLB 2 "stole" players and their flex from here (GLB 1), thinning an already weakened crowd and polluting the leagues with CPU teams. GLB 2 isn't sinister... just lame. Sure. WG gets it's money no matter where it's spent. Doesn't help out here at all.
Edited by Theo Wizzago on Sep 14, 2014 19:36:14
Originally posted by euchrid
It is weird, you guys still talk about GLB2 being this sinister 'competitor' as if, when people purchase Flex Points on that side, the money goes somewhere else...?
This doesn't make any sense. GLB2 isn't free. If you're paying money to run GLB2 when the only customers you get are those who would otherwise be spending the same money on GLB1, then you are losing money by paying for a rival to GLB1. That's creating a competitor. The only way running GLB2 makes sense is if it is bringing in more customers who would otherwise not have joined due to GLB1. By all accounts, that's not the case. Rather than creating GLB2, y'all should have created another game that appeals towards a different customer base.
It is weird, you guys still talk about GLB2 being this sinister 'competitor' as if, when people purchase Flex Points on that side, the money goes somewhere else...?
This doesn't make any sense. GLB2 isn't free. If you're paying money to run GLB2 when the only customers you get are those who would otherwise be spending the same money on GLB1, then you are losing money by paying for a rival to GLB1. That's creating a competitor. The only way running GLB2 makes sense is if it is bringing in more customers who would otherwise not have joined due to GLB1. By all accounts, that's not the case. Rather than creating GLB2, y'all should have created another game that appeals towards a different customer base.
Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
The only way running GLB2 makes sense is if it is bringing in more customers who would otherwise not have joined due to GLB1. By all accounts, that's not the case.
By which accounts? The people in the GLB Classic dedicated private forums that you're part of, that are just as biased as you?
GLB2 has brought in several thousand users, whether those are new or old customers who quit GLB Classic because they were bored. GLB2 currently has more active users than GLB Classic.
The idea that GLB2 is a monumental failure only exists in your head.
The only way running GLB2 makes sense is if it is bringing in more customers who would otherwise not have joined due to GLB1. By all accounts, that's not the case.
By which accounts? The people in the GLB Classic dedicated private forums that you're part of, that are just as biased as you?
GLB2 has brought in several thousand users, whether those are new or old customers who quit GLB Classic because they were bored. GLB2 currently has more active users than GLB Classic.
The idea that GLB2 is a monumental failure only exists in your head.
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