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Originally posted by bhall43
That kind of stuff gets people talking. Honestly not many people care too much about trash talk in the forums. But a bunch of previews and rankings bring out users that generally try and stay away from the main boards.


Exactly, and plenty of people who might not post in said threads still read them and enjoy them. In the leagues where there has been rankings, its always one of the first places I look after the games. The write ups don't have to be epic breakdowns or novels either to get people entertained and some even energized.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Yes, and every game gets boring eventually


6 years and you still have people around for the entire time...I'd say thats a lot of staying power if you could find a way to immerse them a bit more.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
But yeah, a lot of the "immersion" things you mentioned actually aren't wanted by most of the userbase.

I think a more correct statement would be that they aren't wanted enough to create those elements themselves. That's a lot different from not valuing them if they were done by mods & support staff.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
We already figured out how to tailor the game to people that don't want to put a ton of effort into the game.

http://glb2.warriorgeneral.com/


That game is still too much work because I'm not winning any more.
 
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Originally posted by Team Nucleus
Answers like these is why I will choose to stay silent again....how a business works you say....GLB has shown how not to conduct business....if they had such a great business model we wouldn't be at this point


How many other web based games have you spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on?

How many have you played for five years or more?
 
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Originally posted by Corndog

But yeah, a lot of the "immersion" things you mentioned actually aren't wanted by most of the userbase.

Most people would not be inclined to put "news stories" at the top of any list of suggestions. But it generates forum traffic & discussion which adds to their immersion factor whether they know it or not.

Drafts & the like wouldn't work with the current player-focused structure so not advocating it as much as highlighting that in a more team/tactics focused game...the players are the cheap & disposable component. Drafts would be highly interesting I suspect in a ladder-ranked structure (e.g. a world of insta-79), as would protected player lists, etc. (I realize I'm off on a tangent here but insta-79 was ever implemented you could use it as a way to adapt the game in other ways).

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I'd also argue that it's impossible for the game to create the immersion for a completely "PvP" game. If it was a single player game, and you had a bunch of CPUs fighting for your player, sure, but that's kind of hard to foster when the teams are ran by humans.

The game can only do so much, yes. But the game should at least supply the match to make fire with.
 
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Originally posted by Time Trial
How many other web based games have you spent hundreds or thousands of dollars on?

How many have you played for five years or more?


i first read this as "hundreds of thousands" i was about to cry for youand then ask why you have like 80million flex.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

You're just not familiar with that aspect of the site. There have always been huge double standards in the moderation of GLB. For some people who are disliked, any excuse is used to harass them, including offenses that even lead moderators admit are not addressed anywhere in the forum rules we agreed to. Then there are the vast majority of users that the moderators don't know and don't care about who can generally do what they want unless it's something egregious. Then there have always been staff favorites who could get away with absolutely anything, including much of the same behavior that other people got banned for. Darkus Black is always my go-to example because while he was a favorite of DigitalDaggers, Darkus could get away with absolutely anything. Once Darkus & DD had a falling out, Darkus kept getting banned for everything until he left to create his own site.


Don't even get me started. lol

 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

I think a more correct statement would be that they aren't wanted enough to create those elements themselves. That's a lot different from not valuing them if they were done by mods & support staff.


Exactly. Big difference between wanting to do it, and finding value in somebody else doing.

Also a question of timing on the opinion of the "userbase". If the question were asked 3-4 years ago I suspect nobody would even consider league forums would become the wasteland they are today & therefore a waste of time to code automated things like that. Ask again today & I'm certain the results would be different.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
You're just not familiar with that aspect of the site. There have always been huge double standards in the moderation of GLB. For some people who are disliked, any excuse is used to harass them, including offenses that even lead moderators admit are not addressed anywhere in the forum rules we agreed to.


"People who push the rules more often tend to get less leniency"

Not sure why it's so surprising. I'd prefer moderators that look at the whole picture rather than a vacuum, honestly.
 
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Originally posted by itsme420
if glb dies, I'll probably kill myself


GLB is still a long way from dying.
 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by Corndog
"People who push the rules more often tend to get less leniency" Not sure why it's so surprising. I'd prefer moderators that look at the whole picture rather than a vacuum, honestly.

That's not it at all and you know it. Stop trolling. Darkus was a mod, for god's sake.

 
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Originally posted by jdbolick
That's not it at all and you know it. Stop trolling. Darkus was a mod, for god's sake.


Darkus was a FFA mod, and hardly suspended anyone as far as I know, and wasn't a 24/7 religion troll bot at the time.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

That's not it at all and you know it. Stop trolling. Darkus was a mod, for god's sake.



So were a lot of people.
 
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Originally posted by Corndog
Darkus was a FFA mod, and hardly suspended anyone as far as I know, and wasn't a 24/7 religion troll bot at the time.


He suspended me in retaliation for calling him out when he deleted tj's porn thread and tried to sweep it under the rug without a ban. Got me for spam. Funny thing is TEY was the one spamming up a league forum and I merely posted in 2 or 3 of the 15 frickin' threads he started. TEY was still posting while I served out my suspension.

So yeah, Darkus was easily the worst mod this site has ever "employed".

 
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