Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Antonine
2. Why wouldn't you open your tactics if you're a team player, actually?
Eh, I think you're barking up the wrong tree there. Some guys just don't want someone peeking over their shoulder and micro-managing their dots. I have a couple of agents like that on my own team, but I know from past experience that they know what the hell they're doing, so I leave them alone. The only thing I ask is that if they want to try out different tactics or keep their builds closed, to at least keep me somewhat in the loop so that I can gameplan accordingly. And they do.

I suppose I could follow Ken1's stereotype of what he thinks all GLB team owners are like and demand that they open their builds and follow my tactics or else ride the bench, but you know what would happen? I'd piss them off (and probably a few others agents on my team in the process), and the team would fall apart. Because that's what happens when team owners throw hissy-fits over stuff like this.

And THAT is why it is so rare for team owners nowadays to throw hissy-fits over stuff like this -- because it's a sure-fire way to destroy your own team. And that in turn is why I don't think you're going to see a sudden epidemic of dots getting benched over hidden tactics if my suggestion gets implemented.

may as well just let owners edit your tactics for you instead of beating around the bush

Originally posted by Deathblade
may as well just let owners edit your tactics for you instead of beating around the bush
Someone's already made that Suggestion. I gave it a -1, as did almost everyone else.

I've also argued against other people who have come into this very thread and said, "We should just let team owners set everyone's tactics."

I don't want team owners to set player tactics. That's bullshit.

I don't even want team owners to automatically be able to just see player tactics.

What I do want is for agents to have the option of either sharing or hiding their tactics, just like they currently have the option of sharing or hiding their builds.

I'm not beating around any bushes. I've said exactly what it is that I want and why I want it.

Originally posted by Novus
Someone's already made that Suggestion. I gave it a -1, as did almost everyone else.

Yet you're suggesting the same thing with different words.

Originally posted by Deathblade
Yet you're suggesting the same thing with different words.
No, I'm not.

If you want to argue against letting team owners fully control other agent's player tactics, fine: go dredge up that Suggestions thread and argue against it there.

This thread, however, is for a different idea. If you want to legitimately debate the merits or demerits of this idea, fine, let's have that debate. But don't just come in here to troll. I think you know from past experience that I'm not at all afraid to sic a mod on you.

Originally posted by Novus
No, I'm not.

If you want to argue against letting team owners fully control other agent's player tactics, fine: go dredge up that Suggestions thread and argue against it there.

This thread, however, is for a different idea. If you want to legitimately debate the merits or demerits of this idea, fine, let's have that debate. But don't just come in here to troll. I think you know from past experience that I'm not at all afraid to sic a mod on you.

This idea leads to every owner going with "open your tactics", which leads to "why aren't you using the tactics I told you to?", which leads to players being benched.

You may as well skip the whole ordeal and just let owners set player tactics. But I see what you are trying to do, trying to politick it and spin your words so that it doesn't mean what it actually means.

Originally posted by Deathblade
You may as well skip the whole ordeal and just let owners set player tactics. But I see what you are trying to do, trying to politick it and spin your words so that it doesn't mean what it actually means.
No, you're trying to spin my words to mean something I'm not Suggesting. And in the process, you're making it very clear that you're not interested in a legitimate debate. No surprise.

You've now been reported.

EDIT: By the way, plenty of people in this thread have disagreed with me. You're the only one I've reported. I'm not afraid of honest debate, but I'm not going to go back and forth with someone who will only argue against things that I'm not even saying.

Originally posted by Novus

No, you're trying to spin my words to mean something I'm not Suggesting. And in the process, you're making it very clear that you're not interested in a legitimate debate. No surprise.

You've now been reported.

He was basically just expressing the FACT that if it becomes possible for owners to see tactics they'll be able to pressure players into whatever tactics they want. And your report will go nowhere because there is no basis for it.

Originally posted by Novus
No, you're trying to spin my words to mean something I'm not Suggesting. And in the process, you're making it very clear that you're not interested in a legitimate debate. No surprise.

You've now been reported.

Reported for...pointing out the flaws with your suggestion?

Really cool story bro.

Originally posted by Ken1
...the FACT that if it becomes possible for owners to see tactics they'll be able to pressure players into whatever tactics they want.
It's already possible for owners to see builds right now. Still quite a few people building dots their own way, and a decent chunk of people who keep their builds hidden entirely.

So, no, it's not a "FACT," no matter how many letters you capitalize in the word "fact." That's your prediction of what will happen -- a prediction that doesn't match up with what's actually happening right now.

As for the report, that's for the moderators to decide, not you, not me. But in my personal past experience with Deathblade, he's just in here to get people riled up and pissed off. I gave him the opportunity to back off or get serious, and he chose not to. He's not interested in a legitimate debate.

You are. That's why I'll debate you.

Originally posted by Novus
It's already possible for owners to see builds right now. Still quite a few people building dots their own way, and a decent chunk of people who keep their builds hidden entirely.

Changing builds is more or less the same as changing a dropdown.

By the way, thanks for giving me the opportunity to cave in to you stomping your feet and saying I'm wrong. It's really appreciated, and that's why you are one of my favorite posters.

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